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No way
by YakMalla
Dec 18th, 2007
11:23:35 AM
1st!
Almost a day late and a dollar short
by ptindy
Dec 18th, 2007
11:24:03 AM
This site is not for breaking news.......getting sloppy seconds is more like it!
Damn
by YakMalla
Dec 18th, 2007
11:24:24 AM
There are gonna be 8 bajillion posts here, and I'm actually 1st. I'm like totally gonna be famous!
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact all New Lines
by judge dredds fresh undies
Dec 18th, 2007
11:24:58 AM
Funny to see them go crawling back to Jackson. They better get a decent director.
sweet
by tha plow
Dec 18th, 2007
11:25:07 AM
thank you movie gods
Drop Tin Tin and direct these!!!
by wildphantom07
Dec 18th, 2007
11:25:56 AM
let the berg do both chapters. Please Peter!! Still....this is INCREDIBLE news. I never thought the day would come
My heading should have been....
by judge dredds fresh undies
Dec 18th, 2007
11:25:58 AM
"I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact all New Lines recent films have bombed big time!"
Good Luck Harry
by Quin the Eskimo
Dec 18th, 2007
11:26:04 AM
Recover Quick
You're a Hard Hobbit to break - Fran Walsh to direct
by darthbauer
Dec 18th, 2007
11:26:07 AM
Me thinks this will be like the Wachowski brothers and V for Vendetta, where Jackson will actually get another name to direct (maybe his wife Fran Walsh) but he'll actually do most of the work. Fran if you remember directed many of the scenes in the trilogy (if you listen to the director's commentary) and some of her scenes were the best for sure. There's no way Peter is gonna let some guy take the ball and run an entirely different direction. Due to legal obligations Peter can't officially direct because he on these other two movies, but believe me He and Fran will indeed direct this and they'll just give the credit to someone else. This is so fantastic!!!!!
If you see only one film in 2010...
by epitone
Dec 18th, 2007
11:26:54 AM
...make sure it's Michael Bay's THE HOBBIT. Screenplay by Akiva Goldsman.
In the words of Tiny Tim...
by slone13
Dec 18th, 2007
11:26:58 AM
God bless us, everyone!
so the question is this
by waggy
Dec 18th, 2007
11:27:20 AM
will they go A-list with the director or lucas/wachowski it up and hire a director they can direct from the sidelines?
Bad day when Yahoo! News beats you to the punch
by Heckles
Dec 18th, 2007
11:27:24 AM
Ain't It Already Been Reported news.
Compass points to Hobbit...
by wildphantom07
Dec 18th, 2007
11:27:29 AM
'judge dredds fresh undies' you could have nailed it. Well done everyone for not turning up for Compass!!
I'm intrigued...
by TrumpyEatsPotatoes
Dec 18th, 2007
11:28:41 AM
by the idea to do a "sequel" film. How is an amalgamation of ancillary material going to work? Is it going to be a bunch of short stories, or focus on Frodo growing up in the Shire...? I didn't think there was that much missing between Hobbit and Fellowship. But good news nonetheless.
AHHHH! YES!
by tile_mcgillus
Dec 18th, 2007
11:28:55 AM
Fuck yeah bitches! AWESOME! I' am giddy like a school girl now!
Welcome back Gandalf the Grey!!!
by orionazul
Dec 18th, 2007
11:29:54 AM
Hopefully Ian McKellan agrees to reprise his role as Gandalf.
YES!!!
by Tinfang
Dec 18th, 2007
11:30:32 AM
Praise be to Manwe!!

1.) Hobbit adaptation, just like the vast majority wanted CHECK!

2.) PJ gets to "embellish (see: invent)" another Tolkien story CHECK!

Holy Mother of Luthien Tinuviel but this is exciting news!

YAAAAAY!!!!!
by mish87
Dec 18th, 2007
11:32:13 AM
I repeat: Yaaaaay! Was about time.
Please get Howard Shore again PJ.
by Tinfang
Dec 18th, 2007
11:33:12 AM
Whatever falling out you two had over the Kong score, settle it and get to work!
Whe the fuck is the Hobbit and who cares about a movie??
by Stan Gable
Dec 18th, 2007
11:33:14 AM
I Googled Hobbit and so I got enough to know it's a book from 60 years ago written by some british guy. Well I'm not british and I never heard of the Hobbit so it sounds like a complete waste of time and money to make a movie no one will be interested in because they haven't heard of it before! Now I have heard of the Rock and Transformers, so they should definitely put the Rock and some Transformers in this movie if they want to give people something they've heard of before!
Blistering Barnacles in a thundering typhoon!!!
by bluelou_boyle
Dec 18th, 2007
11:33:37 AM
So who is going to direct me and Tintin ?!!!
Predictable
by Ye Not Guilty
Dec 18th, 2007
11:33:54 AM
After the failure of THE GOLDEN COMPASS, I thought that New Line would make nice w/ PJ soon.
Good news
by Cobbio
Dec 18th, 2007
11:34:08 AM
Glad to hear this. Can't wait to see what the sequel to "The Hobbit" might be. Anyone know? I've never read any of Tolkien's ancillary literature.

The best part of the deal is that Jackson will be filming both movies at once. Excellent.

Bilbo Casting
by YakMalla
Dec 18th, 2007
11:34:35 AM
Shia LaBeouf? Jack Black? Quentin Tarantino? Just as long as it's no one tacky.
NO COMIC RELIEF DWARVES PJ!!
by Tinfang
Dec 18th, 2007
11:35:11 AM
Please, please PJ, for the love of Aule, NO FARTY/BELCHING/TOSSED DWARVES.

Sorry about the caps folks but I just had to get PJ's attention.

Snore and Wow! all at the same time..
by Jugs
Dec 18th, 2007
11:35:17 AM
I hope it works.
If I had known that Golden Compass bombing would cause this...
by Ringwearer9
Dec 18th, 2007
11:35:45 AM
I'd have rooted for it to succeed.
Tinfang
by Quin the Eskimo
Dec 18th, 2007
11:37:02 AM
Those Dwarfs loved the bar.
TOO SOON!!!
by YotzVonFrelnik
Dec 18th, 2007
11:37:06 AM
Just kidding. This is too cool. Wotta' great Christmas miracle.
will it be GAY like LOTR?
by jivatmax
Dec 18th, 2007
11:37:24 AM
bunch of male characters gazing into each others eyes etc...
now that we are all in agreement....
by Magnethead
Dec 18th, 2007
11:37:26 AM
we can proceed to market the shit out of this and bleed your fucking wallets dry. C"MON PEOPLE ITS THE HOBBIT! GET A SECOND JOB! SELL YOUR YOUNGEST CHILD. THIS WILL BE BIGGER THAN THE FUCKING RETURN OF JESUS!! abut really ai cant wait to see it, and the subsequent milking of said franchise.
Dream Teaser:
by Dreamfasting
Dec 18th, 2007
11:37:31 AM
slow rasping voice over a montage: "This thing all things devours: birds, beasts, trees, flowers; gnaws iron, bites steel, grinds hard stones to meal, slays king, ruins town and beats high mountain down." ... then the line from the Fellowship movie: "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved" ... fade to title.
Wow, amazing.
by Rindain
Dec 18th, 2007
11:38:09 AM
Glad New Line made nice with PJ before the rights reverted. Now all we need is confirmation that Jackson will direct.
Who's writing the script?
by Jor-El23
Dec 18th, 2007
11:38:39 AM
I'm hesitant about anyone but the original team writing the actual scripts, especially for this Hobbit sequel. In the wrong hands it could be very dicey. Still exciting news.
IF Fran Walsh is directing, without Jackson ...
by Ringwearer9
Dec 18th, 2007
11:38:46 AM
Because the Zombie loving fucktard is committed to other projects, things may not be quite so dismal.
2 films?
by supertoyslast
Dec 18th, 2007
11:39:31 AM
I know that has always been the plan, but I don't see much need for a "linking" film. The Hobbit should be adapted, but should it really be followed up by a film cobbled together from stories outside of the main books? This film will be the last of the saga and can't help but be an anticlimax. Whereas The Hobbit would have been one hell of a way to go out.
Just watched the extended Lord of the Rings all day yesterday!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Dec 18th, 2007
11:39:40 AM
My buddy and I each drank a case of beer and I drank a bottle of mulled mead. It was the first time my buddy had seen the movies and he was floored with awe and alcohol.
Do they need two films?
by I Dunno
Dec 18th, 2007
11:40:07 AM
Oh, it's Jackson, of course they do.
I've been waiting for this news...
by Zorak5
Dec 18th, 2007
11:40:13 AM
Now all they have to do is (please!) announce Peter Jackson as the director.
ooops
by Magnethead
Dec 18th, 2007
11:40:39 AM
sorry for my little hatefest right there. the second hobbit movie just feels like dollar signs for someone. I do hope they will be good.

by jivatmax
Dec 18th, 2007
11:41:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =79tzQ8AT7bM
Peter and fran should at least over see the script.
by erichaislar
Dec 18th, 2007
11:41:14 AM
If not write it.
Greatest Christmas present ever! Since the last 3 movies.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Dec 18th, 2007
11:41:30 AM
Superior fiction then LOTR
by Quin the Eskimo
Dec 18th, 2007
11:41:38 AM
I wonder how it'll translate.
Hurry Up!
by Mr_X
Dec 18th, 2007
11:41:50 AM
Before all the lead actors die of old age.
Linking film features Giant Lion
by MontyPigeon
Dec 18th, 2007
11:42:04 AM
Wait and see. They know the box office money is there if it happens. We've already been letdown with Cloverfield promising it and then failing to deliver the goods.
HINO ! But in a good way!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Dec 18th, 2007
11:42:04 AM
HOLY SHIT!!! FUCK YEAH!!! It's finally happening!!!
by Mr_Incredible
Dec 18th, 2007
11:42:30 AM
I hope Peter Jackson will direct them. If not, I could live with Fran Walsh being the official director of these movies, if PJ is not going to direct them. They are a team, and yeah, Fran directed scenes in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I suppose they're almost like the Coen Bros.

Anyway, can't they (Spielberg & Jackson) put "Tintin" on the backburner? I mean, Spielberg also the Lincoln biopic and "Interstellar" in the pipeline, and probably some other projects as well. Can't he do them first and then do "Tintin"? I just want Peter Jackon to be actively involved with these two Hobbit movies. It just wouldn't feel the same if he didn't direct them.

And finally, is anyone surprised about this news? I mean, with "The Golden Compass" bombing, you just knew New Line had to do something, a.k.a. make friends with PJ again so they could get "The Hobbit" on the fast-track. These movies are surefire blockbusters, and New Line is going to really need them.
Let the casting game begin!
by Tinfang
Dec 18th, 2007
11:43:12 AM
James McAvoy as Bilbo, natch. Oh lawks, Sir Ian gets to be Gandalf again!
The only Christmas present...
by DocPazuzu
Dec 18th, 2007
11:43:27 AM
...better than this news is the knowledge that somewhere out there right now, Ringwearer9 is gnashing his teeth and letting out a Vaderish "NNNNOOOOOOOOOOoooOOooOOo!!!!! !"
Smaug does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
Dec 18th, 2007
11:44:24 AM
Smaug is going to be cinematic gold... the LOTR trilogy has many things going for it, but come on - it doesn't have a dragon! Hopefully the acting team will get back together (Serkis as Gollum, McKellen as Gandalf, and Weaving as Elrond) otherwise the continuity with the previous trilogy will be a bit blown, and I know that I am already looking forward to the day when I can watch the Extended Edition's of these two Hobbit movies in sequence with the LOTR (although all in one session might be a bit much!). If Jackson can't make it back then perhaps Peter Weir could be tempted - he's from a similar part of the world to Jackson and did a great job with MASTER AND COMMANDER. Brilliant news!
If Pete isn't going to direct, get Peter Weir please.
by jenkis
Dec 18th, 2007
11:44:26 AM
Keep Raimi the fuck away from this.
You're A Hard Hobbit To Break...
by BanAllFIRSTPosters
Dec 18th, 2007
11:46:17 AM
into 2 films.
The real question is
by skycrapper
Dec 18th, 2007
11:48:01 AM
Will Bret (Brit) and Jemane make an appearence? "Awww yeeea, it's business time..."
sweet
by D'Jesus
Dec 18th, 2007
11:48:06 AM
I just spewed my shorts. I love that they did research through Tolkein's notes to put a story together for the sequel. This way it's not just some movie that Jackson made up. And can we please limit the number of "near death" scenes in these movies? God those were tiresome in the LOTR.
Awesome news!
by odysseus
Dec 18th, 2007
11:48:19 AM
please please please....
by joevfx
Dec 18th, 2007
11:48:38 AM
Peter JAckson Direct these , please please please...... God i cant wait to see his version of Smaug.
God, I'm glad Golden Compass failed.
by SkeletonParty
Dec 18th, 2007
11:50:06 AM
New Line tried it on their own and botched it.

I'm up for the extended edition box set that matches my LOTR sets.

Good news.

Hobbit 1.5
by TrumpyEatsPotatoes
Dec 18th, 2007
11:50:23 AM
A retelling of the story from the perspective of Smaug. 80 minutes of him sleeping in a cave.
Harry... you better do another 10-part write up!!
by elwen
Dec 18th, 2007
11:50:59 AM
Like the one you did for LotR. I still remember it from way back then, it was an amazing write up. So I hope you can do another one for this.
YEAH, DEFINITELY BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT EVER!!!
by Mr_Incredible
Dec 18th, 2007
11:51:31 AM
Forget Avatar, these will be the most anticipated movies of the next years!

Sure, the return of James Cameron is going to be fucking huge, but this is something entirely different.
Thank You Golden Compass
by Saluki
Dec 18th, 2007
11:51:39 AM
For Bombing. The Hobbitt was way more enjoyable for me than The Lord of the Rings. Dragons 'n Dwarves!
Yeah Harry and another round of twenty questions!
by Tinfang
Dec 18th, 2007
11:52:19 AM
Wooo Hooo!
by monorail77
Dec 18th, 2007
11:52:38 AM
Looked like this may never happen, but here we go. Can't wait. Bring on 2010 (and 2011!!)
Hey Harry
by mukhtabi
Dec 18th, 2007
11:52:49 AM
Since we all know you and the esteemed Mr. Jackson are buds, does he have a short list of candidates he's considering to direct this yet? Just curious
Don't forget to do a sequel to "Black Sheep"
by C.K. Lamoo
Dec 18th, 2007
11:55:41 AM
I loved that film.
Chip the cups and crack the plates...
by SimpleSandwiches
Dec 18th, 2007
11:56:51 AM
...a 2nd, filler Hobbit movie: that's what SimpleSandwiches hates.

Make 1, 4-hour Hobbit movie please. No need to see what happened between Hobbit and LOTR. If George Fuck-us can leave a 20-year gap between 2 epics, so can PJ.

And to the poster who doesn't want comic-relief elves...um, read the book. There's 12 of them.

And I'm having flashbacks of Sean Connery's Dragonheart = Smaug. PJ HAS to get this right!!!!
I meant comic-relief dwarves
by SimpleSandwiches
Dec 18th, 2007
11:57:49 AM
James McAvoy as Bilbo?
by Shigeru
Dec 18th, 2007
11:58:27 AM
genius, I say! This is awesome.
Horror Awards
by bobbyjoe1985
Dec 18th, 2007
11:59:12 AM
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MARTIN FREEMAN FOR BILBO!!!!
by Gilkuliehe
Dec 18th, 2007
11:59:24 AM
Peter Weir directing if Jackson is too busy.
Will Jackson ever NOT adapt anything?
by Lenny8
Dec 18th, 2007
12:01:42 PM
Hack
best christmas present ever
by LegoKenobi
Dec 18th, 2007
12:05:37 PM
awesome news, just *awesome*. i'm not completely sold on the whole "2 movies" thing, but if they keep the hobbit to one movie, and then the second movie is made up of ancillary material, well, there's plenty of that to do one. there's quite a long time between the hobbit and fellowship, and lots of behind-the-scenes stuff went on with gandalf, aragorn, and the other races. BRING IT ON, PETER! WE BELIEVE IN YOU!
TINTIN wont get in THE HOBBIT's way...
by FilmNerdJamie
Dec 18th, 2007
12:08:53 PM
Spielberg and Jackson have said it'll only take about a month to get all the motion capture work done with the actors. The bulk of that film will come in post-production. So it shouldnt be a problem for Jackson...
great news...
by just pillow talk
Dec 18th, 2007
12:09:16 PM
I can't wait for the talkbacks on these movies. If only it were in production sooner...
I've got a fever. And the only prescription is more Gandalf.
by YotzVonFrelnik
Dec 18th, 2007
12:11:23 PM
I've got a fever. And the only prescription is more Gandalf.
Yay: Freeman for Bilbo NO: Raimi to direct
by Reynard Muldrake
Dec 18th, 2007
12:11:56 PM
I pray Jackson also decides to direct...even if Raimi's the nicest guy ever, I have a sour, Spider-Man 3 flavored taste in my mouth still. And I know that was probably due to mountains of studio pressure...but guess what, The Hobbit is going to have a lot of the same, and you need Jackson's cahones and monster established Oscar winning rep to maintain his vision...which is why I'm glad he's Exec. Producing for sure...pretty much like directing...
Surefire? Not so sure.
by Dreamfasting
Dec 18th, 2007
12:14:08 PM
I'm not convinced that this will be surefire hit. The Star Wars prequels were huge hits in spite of being a disaster to the mythology, but I'm not sure that the Tolkien fandom is that forgiving. The Hobbit is a much more innocent book than Lord of the Rings and so a hard choice needs to be made right off the bat whether to make it as dark and gritty as Rings. If they vere off to follow Gandalf's story against the Necromancer, that gives an extra movie but risks breaking the Tolkien atmosphere or get caught in the trap of trying to make the prequel story bigger than the sequel. Plus, you know every rival studio is going to rush a dragon movie together to try to beat it to theaters. I really want to see the great Smaug given his due on film and I can certainly see this team pulling it off, but I don't think this film is an automatic hit.
George Lucas to direct!!!
by Reynard Muldrake
Dec 18th, 2007
12:14:59 PM
Ha, psyche. Worst. Idea. Ever. Knowing him, Bilbo would be bumbling around a la Jar Jar Binks during the Battle of Five Armies instead of being knocked out. And Smaug would shoot first.
Jackson Made LOTR Beautiful ...
by MrDagon
Dec 18th, 2007
12:16:48 PM
So why dd King Kong suck?? Saw LOTR th other night on TVand it really is a gorgeous film. Hope the Hobbit movies are as pretty.
This is going to suck
by phool2056
Dec 18th, 2007
12:16:51 PM
Not really, I just know every talkback isn't complete until somebody tries to crush everyone else's hopes and dreams. I suspect this is going to be justas amazing as the LotR trilogy. Peter Jackson has already demonstrated that he doesn't let success go to his head or screw things up by making movies that are essentially creative masturbation when he has a guaranteed hit(cough cough, Spiderman 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean: At Profit's End). I'm ready for an enormous, WETA-designed dragon with the perfect voice and a mob of hairy, wonderful dwarves.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss ssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Bono Luthor
Dec 18th, 2007
12:18:06 PM
"There is still milk in the LOTR tits,so start sucking"
by travis-dane
Dec 18th, 2007
12:18:21 PM
At least make that Frodo and Sam movie!Peter Jackson has come a long way to become the new George Lucas!Press every dollar out of the franchise!Please make Star Wars:the next Generation vs. The Hobbit Babies for T.V.you fucking assholes!
OMG YES!
by vezner2007
Dec 18th, 2007
12:19:13 PM
BEST NEWS EVAR!!!! :P
This is the best news I have ever read on here!
by Bono Luthor
Dec 18th, 2007
12:19:44 PM
Merry Christmas!!!!!!! This is fucking amazing.
Why are people calling for different actors to play Bilbo?
by The Brain Machine
Dec 18th, 2007
12:20:14 PM
Bilbo was already cast in LoTR. Just as Ian McKellen should (and most likely will)reprise his role as Gandalf, Bilbo should be played by Ian Holm. He's already established the character, and since this is finally headed back to Jackson, continuity should be every fans dream. Awesome news all around.
andy serkis should play all the roles
by jivatmax
Dec 18th, 2007
12:20:40 PM
since he is jackson's butt boy
Hulk Hogan as the voice of Smaug!
by firehawk_thexder
Dec 18th, 2007
12:23:17 PM
Seriously, Hogan was so channelling Richard Boone when he played Lincoln on Robot Chicken..
Brain Machine...
by Reynard Muldrake
Dec 18th, 2007
12:26:18 PM
Use your Brain Machine...The Hobbit takes place some 60 years before LOTR...Ian Holm is no spring chicken, and 3 years hence to start filming?? Come on...Along with the stuff Bilbo's gotta do in the story. I know he doesn't age 'much' with the Ring, but it doesn't track at all to keep Holm on.
We'll see...
by RetroActive
Dec 18th, 2007
12:26:27 PM
The whole making something out of nothing second film seems stupid. I don't think this is legit...yet.
Damn good news, however...
by Samus Aran
Dec 18th, 2007
12:26:59 PM
I have wanted the Hobbit to be made into two movies for this whole time- that one story needs to be in two seperate movies- there is so much content in the book to do so. I thought I was getting my wish, but instead they are going to cram the Hobbit into one short movie; rush through the material, and then make up some stuff that Tolkien may have never intended for some story that Tolkien seems to have never thought was necessary to tell. I just pray that this part of the rumor is not true. Please tell the Hobbit in two seperate movies- that would be so much richer. Cannot wait to see Smaug by the way, I have been waiting for that for years now.
The word you wanted to use was
by BobPalpatine
Dec 18th, 2007
12:28:36 PM
"amalgam" not "amalgamation. Amalgamation is the process of combining, amalgam is the end result. people use big words they don't understand is beyond me.
Great!
by Kubla_Khan
Dec 18th, 2007
12:29:57 PM
I agree, Ian Holm should play Bilbo.
by vezner2007
Dec 18th, 2007
12:31:22 PM
They can use computer imagery to make him look younger. Just look what they did with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in Xmen 3.
... OK. Too bad though.
by The Brain Machine
Dec 18th, 2007
12:32:18 PM
I see that Ian Holm is a bit older than I originally thought. Birthdate in 1931. He was made up to look much older in parts on LoTR.
Yay!
by Parallax
Dec 18th, 2007
12:32:24 PM
Who'd have thunk it, I'm having a good day... on a Tuesday. Bring on Smaug, PJ, and you'd better fucking direct it, too....
Personally,
by Mostholy
Dec 18th, 2007
12:32:47 PM
I'm psyched for The Hobbit *and* three Tintins. As for the second, filler movie, it does seem like a money grab move. But, I'm guessing the Hobbit will be spread out over both, with more Dol Guldur/Necromancer-type stuff throughout. In other words, the Battle of Five Armies won't be in the first film (although, now that I think about it, where'll the cutoff be? If the first film's called The Hobbit, it'll pretty much have to have Smaug therein.)
Ian Holm
by smorgasbord
Dec 18th, 2007
12:34:14 PM
Bilbo shouldn't look much younger than in fellowship seeing as the ring stopped him aging. Didn't they give him a sellotape facelift for the finding of the ring scene? Anyhoo, they'll probably un-age him using hte internets like in The X-men 3.
Or maybe...
by Mostholy
Dec 18th, 2007
12:34:41 PM
they can get the band together again and film the Scouring...
vezner2007
by smorgasbord
Dec 18th, 2007
12:34:49 PM
you pipped me to it.
Just get a new director...
by Liberty Valance
Dec 18th, 2007
12:34:56 PM
PJ & Fran can adapt and produce the fuck out of this thing, but if I have to sit through 7 more hours of incessant slow motion, melodramatic gazing and breathless line delivery I'm going to chew my arms off at the elbows.
THIS IS THE MOST WONDERFULLEST NEWS !!!!!!!!!
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 18th, 2007
12:35:18 PM
Peter Jackson made the world a better place with LOTR. I can't wait for these movies, I just hope there will be lots of dragons, orcs, and crazy ass monsters. Once again unto Middle Earth!!!!!
interesting
by systemsbroom
Dec 18th, 2007
12:36:05 PM
I've thought that a good way to do the Hobbit would be to have the events of the Hobbit "told" via narration and flashback by Bilbo and Gandalf to a very young, newly adopted Frodo. That way, Ian Holm's Bilbo could yammer on about songs and talking spiders and whatnot, and Gandalf could raise and eyebrow and then we dissove to a more gritty version of the Hobbit's events.

That way, both the childlike fairy tale aspects of the Hobbit could be retained in a more LOTR-feeling movie.

So Tired.
by Ringwearer9
Dec 18th, 2007
12:36:22 PM
So very, very ... tired.
KEEP SHIA LEBARF AWAY FROM THIS OR I'LL MAKE RINGWEARER9
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 18th, 2007
12:37:07 PM
look like a Peter Jackson fan in comparison. You've been warned!!!!
Hopefully they'll find a director who understands the material.
by rev_skarekroe
Dec 18th, 2007
12:37:13 PM
"The Hobbit" is NOT a dark sprawling epic fantasy. I don't think Jackson gets that.
He Was such a great Bilbo LoTR
by The Brain Machine
Dec 18th, 2007
12:37:33 PM
I will never forget the crazed face that flashes across Bilbo's eyes for that fraction of a second when he wants the Ring back. amazing. I say use Ian Holm... please. If Harrison Ford can tackle Indy, Ian Holm can pull it off. It might be tough, but he could do it. What actor in Hollywood doesen't want to be digitally un-aged, anyway?
There and Back Again
by Picknickel
Dec 18th, 2007
12:38:36 PM
Finally! There and Back Again, a Hobbit's Tale, and Frodo of the Three Fingers and the War of the Ring. Now all we need is a marathon of the Hobbit and the LOTR trilogy at theaters everywhere for Christmas release! Imagine, we'll see the council of wizards, with Radaghast the Brown, Gandalf, Saruman; the driving of Sauron from Mirkwood; the tale of the Dwarves and how they lost the Lonely Mountain; Legolas' family and clan; Riddles in the Dark; how Bilbo found Sting and Gandalf found Glamdring; Oh hell yesssssssssss my preciousssss! Holy Crap, Merry Christmas Everyone!
Let Geroge Lucas direct it!
by Lord_Soth
Dec 18th, 2007
12:38:41 PM
LOL
HOBBIT TO ROTK MARATHON IN IMAX ...
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 18th, 2007
12:40:04 PM
Oh my God that would be insane.
"NEW LINE ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT McG WILL DIRECT THE HOBBIT"
by BringingSexyBack
Dec 18th, 2007
12:41:53 PM
Wouldn't that be funny?
Ian McKellen has already said...
by cornponious
Dec 18th, 2007
12:43:42 PM
that he would NOT do The Hobbit if Jackson was NOT attached. So, all will be fine...
Get Peter Weir...
by BrooseTheScharuk
Dec 18th, 2007
12:44:28 PM
...even if Jackson isn't too busy. It's nice that the original team is overseeing it, but it needs some new blood. After all, it's not Lord of the Rings (of which I am a huge fan, btw). Also, I predict that -- unless they are intent on using Ian Holm for continuity -- Martin Freeman WILL be Bilbo. It's just a feeling I get. Having said all that, I am oddly unexcited about this. Maybe it's the "sequel". Or maybe it's King Kong. I just hope Jackson has hired someone to just slap him in the back of the head and say "calm down" once in a while. Maybe give him the odd time-out. He needs it.
Thank God these will come out before the Mayan Apocalypse
by kirttrik
Dec 18th, 2007
12:45:03 PM
2012, the day the machines take over the world.
Clint Eastwood to Direct
by kirttrik
Dec 18th, 2007
12:46:13 PM
David Lynch to direct
by kirttrik
Dec 18th, 2007
12:46:41 PM
oh please God no....
by Lt. Kaffee
Dec 18th, 2007
12:46:42 PM
i have wanted peter jackson to leave the hobbit alone since the beginning. color me disapointed. jackson just produce and get weir to direct!
If Ian Holm plays Bilbo...
by rev_skarekroe
Dec 18th, 2007
12:47:22 PM
...they better get a better wig than the one he wore in the "Fellowship" flashback. That thing was awful.
Guillermo del Toro to direct
by kirttrik
Dec 18th, 2007
12:48:01 PM
oh wait, that actually might happen.
Bring it on!
by DoctorWho?
Dec 18th, 2007
12:48:53 PM
Not one but TWO! What an epic scale this is when you consider all the films together. Perhaps I wont watch LOTR trilogy until after seeing these two years from no, just to revisit it straight thru,fresh.
Anybody seen Richie?
by Motoko Kusanagi
Dec 18th, 2007
12:49:07 PM
I keep coming back until someone remembers seeing Richie!
And I'm sure it will be great, but...
by DerLanghaarige
Dec 18th, 2007
12:49:19 PM
...this won't stop making da kids bitch about how long and gay the movie is.
Holm isn't the only issue.
by Mostholy
Dec 18th, 2007
12:50:01 PM
If they're adding Dol Guldur, then they best put Christopher Lee in the cryogenic chamber stat. He was looking a bit peaked in his Golden Compass moment. Also, systemsbroom, I like that approach. I've been thinking something similar, with Sam telling the story to the Gamgee kids.
P.S.
by Lt. Kaffee
Dec 18th, 2007
12:50:45 PM
i just re read the hobbit this last summer. and it is a wonderfully charming small and unassuming adventure story. the tone and scheme are anything but epic. please stay true to the source material. its an awesome story of a bilbo out of water. keep it that way.
I'm also willing to bet
by Mostholy
Dec 18th, 2007
12:52:13 PM
that other than Elrond, Gandalf, and Saruman, PJ might stick cameos of young Arwen and Aragorn -- maybe even Legolas or Galadriel -- in Rivendell. If Viggo shaves the beard, he'd probably still look young enough, and it'd just be a brief nod to the "OT" anyway.
Does anyone else think the sequel is going to be 'The Silmarilli
by kirttrik
Dec 18th, 2007
12:52:38 PM
or that book that came out last year The Children of Hurin?
Sooo Happy the Golden Compass bombed
by Live.
Dec 18th, 2007
12:54:16 PM
Why does it take desperation for studio suits to do the sensible and right thing? New Line could have avoided a lot of pain and suffering, if they had just not tried to screw PJ in the first place.
Doubtful, kirttrik
by Mostholy
Dec 18th, 2007
12:55:40 PM
If the first film is the Hobbit, I doubt the second would be Silmarillion or Children of Hurin. Hobbit and LotR take place in the Third Age. So those other stories are thousands of years earlier. They'll probably just plunder Unfinished Tales to lengthen the Hobbit, maybe borrow a page from the last SW prequel and do a "Shadow Lengthens" type thing -- Gollum getting captured, the Nine coming together, etc.
Interesting Choice!
by YakMalla
Dec 18th, 2007
12:57:10 PM
In a nod to the the success of casting Cate Blanchett as Jude Quinn in "I'm not There", the part of Bilbo will be played by Fran Drescher.
You said "come"
by Abominable Snowcone
Dec 18th, 2007
12:58:36 PM
why two films?
by Jarek
Dec 18th, 2007
12:58:38 PM
The Hobbit is shorter than Fellowship of the Ring.... it doesn't seem like enough material to fit into two films.
oops
by Jarek
Dec 18th, 2007
12:59:22 PM
Guess I should have read more closely.
Ian Holm for Bilbo. If they can de-age Xavier and Magneto...
by V'Shael
Dec 18th, 2007
01:00:46 PM
this is definitely the way to do it.

Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen both looked very good in the past sequence of X-Men 3.

Sequel speculations
by Picknickel
Dec 18th, 2007
01:01:21 PM
I think it might have more to do with the forging of the rings, the fall of man and the treachery of Sauron, the creation of the Ringwraiths, etc. There really isn't a whole lot between The Hobbit and LOTR except Sauron taking up hold in Barad Dur and massing his armies, the elves fleeing middle earth, the tracking down of Gollum, etc. I guess you could make The Hobbit at a film and a half lenght, then tack on that stuff to bridge the gap into Fellowship. I've read most everything Tolkien ever wrote, and unless I'm forgetting whole chunks of story, there just doesn't seem like a whole lot to "bridge" the two with. Who knows, it'll be fun speculating.
Mostholy
by systemsbroom
Dec 18th, 2007
01:02:01 PM
Interesting. I think having Sam tell the story (and maybe reading from the Red Book Frodo gave him) would add a measure of sadness to the film, because of all the characters in the Hobbit, only he is left in middle-earth. Nice idea!
Year of the Dragon: 2010
by Mr Gorilla
Dec 18th, 2007
01:02:14 PM
Both this and The Deathly Hallows have kick-ass dragon scenes.
BobPalpatine...
by TrumpyEatsPotatoes
Dec 18th, 2007
01:02:30 PM
Check your dictionary. Swing and a miss.
David Lynch as Director
by flossygomez
Dec 18th, 2007
01:05:17 PM
He's worked with dwarves before.
Wooooooooooooooo Hooooooooooooooo!
by Bono Luthor
Dec 18th, 2007
01:05:24 PM
This is going to suck
by chrth
Dec 18th, 2007
01:06:00 PM
PJ is going to make sure they spend more time on the Necromancer story than on the Hobbit. And I'm sure he'll butcher the Beorn scene unneccessarily. Oh, and Bard will leap on to a rope, swing through the air, and then fire the arrow into Smaug, because, of course, the way Tolkien wrote it was no good.
IS PETER DIRECTING??????
by THE KNIGHT
Dec 18th, 2007
01:06:51 PM
THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION HERE!
cool
by Automaton Overlord
Dec 18th, 2007
01:07:27 PM
I bet the sequel will have to do with Aragorn and Arwen, You know, to tie the stories together.
RE: Surefire? Not so sure.
by Mr_Incredible
Dec 18th, 2007
01:07:37 PM
"I'm not convinced that this will be surefire hit."

Dude, were you sleeping when LOTR mania hit the world? People have been wanting PJ to do "The Hobbit" ever since "The Return of the King" sweeped the Oscars. And probably well before that. The LOTR movies are the most beloved movies of this decade. And now "The Hobbit", the book that preceded "The Lord of the Rings", is going to get the big screen treatment. The anticipation is going to be enormous.

In other words,these new two movies are the definition of "surefire hit".
Bestest day ever for AIC news!!!!!
by Bono Luthor
Dec 18th, 2007
01:07:38 PM
I am fucking leaping with joy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! YES!
It's not a sequel
by chrth
Dec 18th, 2007
01:08:39 PM
They're splitting the book in half and including all of the scenes that happen off-page (Necromancer especially). I wonder if they'll end the first film with Gollum's "Baggins! We hates thee forever!"?
All Hail "The Golden Compass!"
by utz_world
Dec 18th, 2007
01:11:05 PM
...because the only reason why New Line got their heads out of their asses is the fact that TGC FLOPPED!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:11:44 PM
but if Raimi is directing NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHILDREN OF FUCKING HOBBITS
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:12:21 PM
Man this is awesome. 2 movies. fuck yeah.
The Hobbit: Sinestro Corps War
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:13:07 PM
you know it.
Still pissed at Spidey 3
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:14:29 PM
If Raimi couldn't handle Venom and Sandman in one movie how the fuck can he do The Hobbit.
Pullman vs. Tolkien
by TrumpyEatsPotatoes
Dec 18th, 2007
01:14:53 PM
Pretty amusing that a failed Pullman adaptation led to a greenlit Hobbit. I do like His Dark Materials, I remember hearing Pullman had no great love for Tolkien or Lewis.
Guessing where to make the midpoint cut
by Dreamfasting
Dec 18th, 2007
01:15:45 PM
I think the way to do it would be to make the first movie about Smaug (let him be the undivided focus of the story) and then do the second movie about the aftermath, where they can add in all the surrounding politics and events only hinted at in the book (since it was from Bilbo's disinterested point of view), building up to the Battle of the Five Armies.
December 15th 2010, December 14th 2011
by sambrook
Dec 18th, 2007
01:15:52 PM
I'd put money on these being the release dates if the LOTR Wednesday release dates of 19th, 18th and 17th December are anything to go by. Those or 22nd December 2010 and 21st December 2011. There's only two ways I could be happier about this news - firstly if it's confirmed Jackson, Walsh and Boyens will script (likely if they're going with the two films idea suggested by Jackson way back). Secondly, and obviously, if they confirm Jackson is directing - and if the press release is anything to go by they see Jackson as an intergral part of the deal so I'm sure they're doing all they can to convince him. Leave his Tin Tin movie till last, get him to do this first!
HE COULDN'T HANDLE VENOM!!!!
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:15:57 PM
he can't handle the Hobbit.
The Two Towers - 5 years old today!
by sambrook
Dec 18th, 2007
01:17:24 PM
A deliberate timing?
Holm = Plastic Surgery
by kevsnyde
Dec 18th, 2007
01:18:00 PM
C'mon, Hanks starved himself to act in Cast Away. Get a crack team of the world's best surgeons, and turn the clock back on Ian's face by about 30 or 40 years. Freaky, but worth it. I'm sure Holm wouldn't mind.
jivatmax kill yourself
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:18:38 PM
look at my homophobia, i'll completely discount the most manly and badass battle scenes ever put to film because i'm a dumb cunt.
YES!!!!
by Lord Nerd
Dec 18th, 2007
01:20:06 PM
YES!!!!
by Lord Nerd
Dec 18th, 2007
01:20:15 PM
Fuck! The Two Towers 5 Years old!!!
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:20:45 PM
fuck me. I still think it's the greatest film ever made. Never have I seen an audience so excited, blown away and happy when they left the theatre. An experience I will never forget. The magic of the movies.
Mid Point will be
by SimpleSandwiches
Dec 18th, 2007
01:22:50 PM
Either right before the intro to Gollum or right after Bilbo runs out of the cave past Gollum, leaving Gollum to hiss and wave his fist in the air.

And to those who think Ian and Pat looked good as young'ns in X3 are high. And that was only for, what, 2 minutes of screentime?! Doing that for Bilbo the entire span of 2, 3+ hour movies would be quite an undertaking.
New Information-Jackson/Walsh to write/direct (98% probable)
by darthbauer
Dec 18th, 2007
01:23:33 PM
FOXNEWS.COM.... this comes directly from the co-chief of New Line Cinema: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0 ,2933,317348,00.html Big news Tuesday for fans of J.R.R. Tolkien and "Lord of the Rings." New Line Cinema has patched up its differences with director Peter Jackson. The result is a two-picture deal for "The Hobbit," plus a sequel. Jackson will executive produce the films with partner Fran Walsh, just as he did on the gazillion-dollar Oscar-winning "Rings" trilogy. Getting "The Hobbit" to this point was a huge effort, because Jackson and New Line were really at loggerheads over "Lord of the Rings" money. New Line co-chief Bob Shaye told me Tuesday morning he conceded a lot of the trouble had to do with his "personal rancor" over Jackson's comments. But he also said, "When there's a lot of money involved, there are a lot of intermediaries who say things. We had to be responsible to the millions of [Tolkien] fans." So will Jackson direct? So far Shaye and Michael Lynne are sticking to the story that Jackson will executive produce. But the Oscar-winning director of the "Rings" trilogy has creative control over all of "The Hobbit." "We're going to sit down in January and talk about possible writers and directors," Shaye told me. "He's not going to hire just anyone. This way Peter can oversee this and all his other projects," such as "Tin Tin" and "The Lovely Bones," which he's shooting. But my guess is that Jackson and Walsh will wind up writing and directing. The stakes are too high, and the legacy after the "Rings" is too important. Shaye and Lynn didn't deny it when I asked, they just diplomatically skirted the issue. By the way, why is MGM involved? It turns out its United Artists division had the rights to "The Hobbit" following Saul Zaentz's 1978 animated Ralph Bakshi feature. "Once we resolved our issues with MGM, and then Peter, we were set to go," Lynne told me.
ricarleite
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:24:01 PM
there are like 11 other books apart from the hobbit and lotr. Jackson has said it would focus on what happens in between(which is alot) found in the appendices etc. I doubt it's the Simarillion. Unless you want to make 9 movies at a cost of 1 billion each. it just ain't happening.
Jackson should adapt THE MATRIX
by Lenny8
Dec 18th, 2007
01:25:15 PM
So what if it's not cold in the ground yet.
What's taters, precious?
by Han Cholo
Dec 18th, 2007
01:26:56 PM
Yep it took a box office bomb for New Line to come to their senses and realize they're losing money, and fast. So basically they need to kiss PJ's ass and settle the debt they owed him in order for him to save the company cause they thought they had a surefire hit on their hands with Golden Compass and had gotten quite a bit uppity after LOTR.

I think PJ will do fine but I just hope they don't inject the story with their own sensibilities and changes so much like they did in LOTR. The Arwen/Frodo scene was terrible and took away from what it should have been, Frodo using what strength he had left and all of his will to escape the Black Riders. There also should have been elements of horror with them calling out to him to come back. I think that was the biggest jump the shark moment of LOTR but the rest of it was great, with some ugh scenes here and there. I'm looking forward to this.

As for the title of the second movie...
by Mr_Incredible
Dec 18th, 2007
01:26:56 PM
How about "The Return of the Shadow"?

Because when Bilbo found the One Ring, Sauron was driven out of Dol Guldur around the same time. The next year he returned secretly to Mordor. And about ten years later, he openly declared himself. So, if the second movie is about what happened between "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings", "The Return of the Shadow" would be a good title, because Sauron (a.ka. The Shadow) had returned. Because the One Ring had been found again.
THREE MOVIES, PEOPLE
by ArcadianDS
Dec 18th, 2007
01:30:01 PM
This is a three movie deal. Lots of talkbackers seem to think its a two movie deal. The Hobbit will be a 2 movie story, and the THIRD movie will be a 'new' story based on events that Tolkien referenced in ALL his various books, and in his unpublished/incomplete journals.
Better start preparing for the Cumpston review now...
by Alonzo Mosely
Dec 18th, 2007
01:30:26 PM
I think the reaction in the TB may break the internet, you may want to start backing it up...
I love that trailer idea Dreamfasting
by nerosday
Dec 18th, 2007
01:31:23 PM
If ANY book could do with a darker revamp
by King Sweyn Forkbeard
Dec 18th, 2007
01:33:16 PM
It's The Hobbit. Cracking story, but twee as hell. It's ripe for a more grown up take by someone already steeped in Middle Earth. Jackson knocked LOTR out of the park, no real reason to suspect he won't do the same here.
PJ/Walsh writing? Fuck
by chrth
Dec 18th, 2007
01:33:26 PM
Look for another bastardization of the original like they did with ROTK.

You know, when Rankin-Bass pulls off a more faithful adaptation, you might want to rethink your priorities.

You can only do certain parts of the Sil
by chrth
Dec 18th, 2007
01:35:19 PM
Maybe the Lay of Beren and Luthien, which is the closest to an actual narrative. Most of the rest of it is Elves Behaving Badly, and I don't think anyone wants to watch Galadriel acting like a bitch.
Return of the Shadow
by Mostholy
Dec 18th, 2007
01:35:40 PM
As you probably know, Mr. Incredible, "Return of the Shadow" is the alternate name for Fellowship (along with "The Treason of Isengard" for TTT and "The War of the Ring" for RotK) To be honest, I always liked those names better.
Oh yeah, how about this 2010 match-up:
by Mr_Incredible
Dec 18th, 2007
01:36:38 PM
"The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" (Summer) vs. "Harry Potter and the Deathy Hallows" (Summer?) vs. "The Hobbit" (Christmas?)? Gentlemen, place your bets!
Re: Return of the Shadow
by Mr_Incredible
Dec 18th, 2007
01:40:21 PM
Yep, I did know that. They're the titles of the "The History of Middle-earth" volumes about those three books. But seeing as the title wasn't used and Tolkien chose "The Fellowship of the Ring", I thought it would be a good and fitting title for the second (as yet untitled) movie. That is, if they can use that title.
Mr_Incredible: The Hobbit, easily
by chrth
Dec 18th, 2007
01:40:43 PM
Dawn Treader is probably one of the weaker books, especially since the only narrative thread is the dickhead cousin getting his ... everything else is pretty episodic.

Deathly Hallows is going to be hurt by how they handle the Riddle scenes. If they keep them in, it's going to break up the flow of the movie; if they modify them, it'll get the purists hackles up.

Hobbit, on the other hand, they're not even attempting to be faithful to so they can do whatever they want to make it cinematic, and it'll have been seven years since the last one.

Could this be the best news ever?
by brokentusk
Dec 18th, 2007
01:43:03 PM
The only news that rivals this news was when the Jews of Egypt learned that Moses had come to free them. I remember that well, it was seriously good news. However, this news makes that news look like SHIT! Thank you New Line Cinema, thank you MGM and thank you Moses! On a side note: Peter Jackson, I'm assuming you're reading this (you aren't), please direct this thing - I know you're busy, life's tough, but c'mon - this is important, iconic work here that you will regret not filming yourself. Let us pray.
Great, more walking.....
by Turd Furgeson
Dec 18th, 2007
01:43:49 PM
I'm looking forward to watching 6 more hours of walking and sword fights....
One Film
by Sirmausalot
Dec 18th, 2007
01:46:58 PM
For the story, the other for the 3 hour ending (s)
'Tis Like Chocolate Covered Hobbit Toes
by versatol
Dec 18th, 2007
01:49:05 PM
Yeszir!
Turd Furgeson
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:50:08 PM
i'm looking forward to 6 hours of breaking your face.
At last, 'Jacko's' back at the reigns, hope he directs 'em both
by KillaKane
Dec 18th, 2007
01:50:40 PM
I'm sure there's been a resounding sign of relief from the collective LOTR/Jackson fans at this news. Just hope Jackson decides to continue directing the Hobbit-sies.
Potter Vs. Rings again?
by sambrook
Dec 18th, 2007
01:51:35 PM
Great point Mr_Incredible - shame they're not out at the same time, the first 2 Potters and Rings' in 2001 and 2002 were amazing times for cinema. Say what you want about the films themslves (the Potters are debatable but they're good family films) but they bought families back to the cinema in a way not seen since in years - casual fans who hadn't been to the cinema since Titanic and Phantom Menace - and they - along with the massive rise of DVD and the home entertainment industry - restarted the golden age we're currently in. Remember event films from 2000 and 2001? Exactly.
I'd love to see Ian Holm back but...
by nerosday
Dec 18th, 2007
01:54:10 PM
He will be 80, I repeat 80, when the movie comes out. That really may be a bit much for a man in his late seventies to fill two films straight for a year or more. Yep they may need to recast a younger guy, bring Holm in for some sences at the end of the bridge movie.
sam raimi as director?
by Lanceloco
Dec 18th, 2007
01:55:04 PM
Sam raimi is said to be very interested in directing. He's a great director (I love evil dead as much as anybody else) but I don't think his style would fit too well for the hobbit films. It SHOULD be Jackson directing!!!
Sean Astin
by emeraldboy
Dec 18th, 2007
01:57:44 PM
in his book there and hack again claims to deny all knowledge of any homo erotic stuff in LOTR. When I got to the part of the book where Sean was in the editing room with Peter and Fran, I actually thought he was lying because, he was so annoying at that juncture that if I were jackson I would have kicked him and read him the riot act. the book went from entertaining to interesting to irritating to annoying. I gave up reading it. According to my friend who read the Christopher Lee biog, the lord of misrule lee doesnt mention the whole editing out of Saruman and yet astin mentions it. I wonder where the other cast members embarassed by astin book. Apart from AStin and lee everyone else has maintained a digified silence oh mckellen of course it did wonders for his career.
2001
by sambrook
Dec 18th, 2007
01:57:52 PM
I meant event films before Potter and Rings in November/December. Come on, it was the summer of Mummy Returns, Planet of the Apes, Tomb Raider, Jurassic Park III . Not saying they were all bad (A.I. and Moulin Rouge) but nothing that got the masses excited. And what was the biggest summer film of 2000? X-Men? Good film but it was X2 everyone got excited for. Gladiator was the closest film 2000 one to an event film, that didn't really bring families out to the cinemas.
Totally agree Raimi's style just doesn't fit
by nerosday
Dec 18th, 2007
01:58:23 PM
Peter Jackson for JLA
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
01:58:51 PM
Hal Jordan as Hal Jordan.
Nathan Fillion for Hal Jordan!!!
by Lanceloco
Dec 18th, 2007
02:00:53 PM
If it were 15 years ago I'd be saying Denis Quaid though
note to self: cancel hit contract on Bob Shaye!
by Zardoz
Dec 18th, 2007
02:01:14 PM
Merry Christmas! I can't wait! Who will play Bilbo this time? (surely Ian Holm's too old?) Who will be the voice of Smaug? And there's enough material in the appendices to make another four movies!
The fans of star wars will be delighted
by emeraldboy
Dec 18th, 2007
02:02:01 PM
They will all crowd out this site and will berate anyone who questions Jacksons genius. the jackson knockers had better leave town.
Turd Furgeson the joke was only funny when Kevin Smith did it...
by nerosday
Dec 18th, 2007
02:02:23 PM
SWEET NEWS!
by WONKABAR
Dec 18th, 2007
02:03:20 PM
That's all
Sweet fiery moses
by broken ring
Dec 18th, 2007
02:04:17 PM
Best news in a long time. End communication.
Lots of turd rimmers-or LOTR
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
02:08:11 PM
The LOTR trilogy has dated very badly...they are boring after the 3rd time of viewing...even the special editions.. I like most people thought the books where un-film-able..but Peter managed it brilliantly...but watch them again and they drag with some dodgy overblown acting and some serious take you out of the movie bad sfx, which is unforgivable because most of the sfx are top notch..!
Voice of Smaug
by YakMalla
Dec 18th, 2007
02:08:23 PM
Tom Kenny.
QUITE A NICE EARLY CHRISTMAS GIFT
by BurgerTime
Dec 18th, 2007
02:10:16 PM
Thank you to all involved. It's the gift that'll keep on giving.
holm as hobbit
by oisin5199
Dec 18th, 2007
02:10:40 PM
My guess is that they may use Holm as a framing device, since 'the Hobbit' is really 'There and Back Again' - so it's an old Holm Bilbo looking back on his adventure, but it's a younger actor playing the role in the 'flashback.' I do hope they stick to their word and have the first film be complete on its own, from Bilbo's POV. And the second film be more from Gandalf's point of view. And I also really hope they put Beorn (the were-bear) in the story - don't let him be the next Tom Bombadil. Hell, maybe they can find a way to put Bombadil into the second movie!
sambrook
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
02:11:08 PM
you're right. LOTR films were events. people didn't just see them as movies, but during the times they were released(holidays) they were times families went to the movies together. when they asked them what they were doing over the break, one of the answers would be to watch lord of the rings. It's an event film. When Return of the King came out I have never seen so many people at a multiplex. every session sold out 2 hours in advance and they had to cancel screenings of other movies just to get more theatres. crazy shit.
Node32774
by YakMalla
Dec 18th, 2007
02:12:23 PM
Good point. I can't see them greenlighting Deathly Hallows. Too risky.
Fantastic news!! And imagine an animated Silmarillion series, na
by fjosman
Dec 18th, 2007
02:14:01 PM
This is such a great christmas gift for all us PJ and LOTR fans, and a second film bridging the gap between the hobbit and LOTR means more gollum, and will bring back aragorn, sauron and what about boromir?
Ian Holm
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
02:18:31 PM
The will use Ian Holm because they will be able to sfx him to look young...an animated Silmarillion would be the icing on the cake...yeah the more i think about it the second Hobbitt film could be great as the best characters from Lotr would be in the movie..yesss
"Box office failure. Bob'll pretty much have to."
by Mr.Vess
Dec 18th, 2007
02:21:58 PM
I cannot believe this is happening, considering the smashing success of "The Golden Compass"!
semisaj you suck cock
by messi
Dec 18th, 2007
02:23:45 PM
fuck you, they hold up and are the prime examples of great films that everyone loves.
oisin5199
by flossygomez
Dec 18th, 2007
02:25:33 PM
That is spot on oisin5199. You need an actor or actors from the original trilogy to bridge the series and make it cohesive. Ian Holm as a framing device, writing of his adventures in Rivendell would work perfectly. They will definitely include Beorn, because it's a fearsome character, not take you out of the movie gay, like Tom Bombadil, who reads like a character from H.R. PuffnStuff.
Just let Jackson and Spielberg direct everything
by The Ghost of Marcus Brody
Dec 18th, 2007
02:27:12 PM
EVERYTHING.
SPIELBERG
by saintaugust
Dec 18th, 2007
02:29:41 PM
I agree with Ghost of Marcus Brody - have Spielberg and Jackson co-direct this and TinTin.
Disney should forget Narnia
by skycrapper
Dec 18th, 2007
02:33:56 PM
and get the Chronicles of Prydain into production. I assume they still own the rights after that awful animated adaptation.
GEORGE LUCAS!!!!!
by Lanceloco
Dec 18th, 2007
02:35:20 PM
hahaha Just Kidding
Dawn Treader for 2010?
by sambrook
Dec 18th, 2007
02:37:49 PM
I heard they were planning on releasing one every May (to keep up with the kids), which would give us The Silver Chair in 2010. I'd guess The Magician's Nephew as a prequel for 2011, then some serious discussions about the quite-dull Horse and his Boy (which at least brings back the original quartet) or The Final Battle, which would be spectacular if doen right but considering the thinly-veiled "False religion brings about the apocalypse, believers go to heaven, disbelivers go to hell (bye, Susan!)" theme might be too much for Disney.
spielberg?
by mithrandir16
Dec 18th, 2007
02:38:13 PM
Keep Spielberg and Lucas far far away. They need to stay as close to the cast and crew of the LOTR. John Williams better not even think about stepping in on Howard Shore!
semisaj
by just pillow talk
Dec 18th, 2007
02:38:49 PM
While I don't know if you do or don't suck cock, I must disagree. I think they hold up just as well as ever. In fact, I was just watching The Two Towers the other day (on TNT for the 8,563rd time), and the movie is still great. Nor do I think any of the three will ever lose their appeal to me. Are they perfect? No. But FOTR is still the last movie to get me giddy like a little kid when leaving the theater.
Thorin does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
Dec 18th, 2007
02:39:21 PM
How about Brendan Gleeson for Thorin Oakenshield? The Dwarves in Jackson's LOTR seem to be depicted as Scottish and I'm sure Gleeson's still got his BRAVEHEART wig and beard in a box somewhere. Also Bana for Bard, McAvoy for Bilbo, and that big lug who played Pullo in ROME for Beorn.
Messi
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
02:39:39 PM
Whats wrong with sucking cock? its not for me but hey i've guess you have tried it and hate it? I'm not saying they are bad films just that at the time of every release they where made out to be the best films ever made and to be honest people will always love these films but they have dated and this will be proven once the 2 new film come out...come on the sfx are not up to the standard of Transformers and i'm not saying that transformers is a better film, some of the acting in lotr is very stage schoolish and overblown that it becomes cringy..but hey i dont want to have an argument its just my opinion...i think most people will disagree with me
The bestest Christmas gift ever!!
by keltic1701
Dec 18th, 2007
02:40:53 PM
*sniff* Gawd bless 's awll!!
Voice of Smaug
by WONKABAR
Dec 18th, 2007
02:41:19 PM
Sean Connery
Then again...
by WONKABAR
Dec 18th, 2007
02:42:29 PM
he already did a dragon
just pillow talk
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
02:42:51 PM
Thank you ...note messi 'adult post back'
the official hobbit community is up.
by briantag
Dec 18th, 2007
02:46:56 PM
http://community.thehobbitsite .com/
fran directing scenes
by Halfbreedqueen
Dec 18th, 2007
02:48:29 PM
what are some of the scenes she directed?
FUCK YES
by SlickyVonBoner
Dec 18th, 2007
02:49:21 PM
I just got a full fan-boy boner. The best movies of the decade finally have their prequel. Also the Hobbit is the most fun and best story of all the books. Why not just include everything from the book into two movies. There is enough material. This movie will be huge. Final domestic gross 500 million....
sam raimi
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
02:49:28 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/n ews/topnews.php?id=6618
Peter Jackson for JLA... *sob*
by UltimaRex
Dec 18th, 2007
02:54:31 PM
I'll settle for this... It's not like I have any choice.
QUARON MUST DO IT
by pipergates
Dec 18th, 2007
02:59:08 PM
at last some sense, new line, it sure took you long...
i mean CUARON
by pipergates
Dec 18th, 2007
03:02:47 PM
oops
Hope I'm not repeating anybody... but;
by jimmy rabbitte
Dec 18th, 2007
03:05:49 PM
whoa...
by jimmy rabbitte
Dec 18th, 2007
03:06:16 PM
wha happened?
Three Things
by TerryMalloy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:06:31 PM
1. I am confused. Is this going to be two Hobbit films and a third "bridge" film or one Hobbit film, a "bridge" film, with an option on another Tolkien property? 2. IF the Hobbit is stretched into two films, I really don't think Peter will be faithful to the source material. There really isn't enough there. Thoughts? 3. Dragons always suck in movies. They never look remotely real. Especially if they talk.
anyway...
by jimmy rabbitte
Dec 18th, 2007
03:09:39 PM
I was thinking about this time last year (or whenever it was) when speculation was that PJ was out for good; and they were going to perhaps hire Sam Raimi to direct The Hobbit.

Anyone else think the mess that was Spiderman 3 put an permanent end to all of that noise?

It's good to have P.J back at the helm. Now, I hope these new films are closer in quality to LOTR than King (snore, stretch, yawn) Kong.

that's the thing terry
by Happy Boy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:09:51 PM
they never remotely capture the look and feel of real life dragons in the real world. it's a shame, if there's one thing i look for in dragons is how realistic they are compared to real life. wow this is where commerce overtakes respect for tolkien's work... get ready suckers for PREQUEL TRILOGY, jackson style
Fran's direction
by darthbauer
Dec 18th, 2007
03:10:51 PM
Fran directed a lot of the personal smaller stuff. She directed the whole opening to Return of the King with Smeagol and Deagol and their fight over the ring when they find it. Also Arwen seeing her future son running into Aragorn's arms in ROTK. She directed a lot of the quieter moments in Two Towers with Aragorn and Arwen. She directed Grima Wormtongue/Arwen scenes in Two Towers. A lot of the interpersonal smaller stuff. Peter does the big scenes, then he hands the smaller dialog heartfelt stuff off to Fran so they can essentially do two things at once. And Fran is proved herself as an awesome director. The stuff she did is always outstanding. If you listen to the commentaries Peter is very complementary of Fran and always gives her credit when she directed a scene. That's why I think she will direct a lot of the Hobbit even if she doesn't get full credit.
why do you care jimmy?
by Happy Boy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:11:03 PM
fellowship was the only movie faithful to LOR. ROK was like a 2 hour video game.
Happy Boy:
by jimmy rabbitte
Dec 18th, 2007
03:12:29 PM
...a two hour *gay* video game...

...but it had it's moments...

Smaug's voice...
by ZeroCorpse
Dec 18th, 2007
03:13:18 PM
He should be deep, powerful, and care-free. His voice shouldn't be easily identified as a particular actor's (Connery, James Earl Jones, etc.) and it should be rimmed with confidence and egotism. Smaug thinks he's the shit, and is so certain of it that he's lackadaisical in his approach to Bilbo walking into his treasure room.

For that reason, I'm thinking an unknown would be the best bet, but then I'm also a big fan of Peter Jackson's casting greats like McKellan and Christopher Lee in key roles.

So how about another old-school Hammer actor or someone with some great British film cred? It's SOOO disappointing that Oliver Reed is dead, because he would have been fucking PERFECT as Smaug.

In his stead, I suppose Brian Blessed would be a pretty fucking awesome Smaug.

Think about it. Blessed's not that well-known in the States, and he has an incredible voice. If you're not going to cast him as Thorin, then the obvious choice is as Smaug.

this is awesome... in particular the lead In to LOTR. F***ING AW
by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG
Dec 18th, 2007
03:13:59 PM
Bard the bowman
by GavinVanDraven
Dec 18th, 2007
03:14:09 PM
Liam Neeson needs to do this. he is in every other kick ass fantasy series. Bard, all the way. you know John Ryess Davies will do the voice of Smaug. if not, JAMES EARL JONES. Brendan Gleeson as Gloin Ian Holm de-aged ala X3 to play Bilbo.
TerryMalloy
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
03:14:56 PM
2 Films.. one will be The Hobbit and the second will be based on the history of the characters and the events that lead up to the Lotr trilogy...so not based on any one book but based on events that if i remember correctly from when i read the books, are talked about very loosly..this will mean Peter Jackson and his director Stephen Norrington, just kidding, will have free reign to do what they want and lead the story into the Lotr trilogy...like they did with the star wars prequels..god i hope the don't fuck it like Lucas did!
But what everyone really wants to know is...
by rbatty024
Dec 18th, 2007
03:15:59 PM
will Ian Holm play Bilbo Baggins? They better cast him or shit's going down. And by "shit's going down" I mean I'll whine on my computer some more.
I wonder if Bob Shaye used Chap Stick before puckering his lips
by SpyGuy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:16:16 PM
At least something good came out of that ham-handed crapfest called THE GOLDEN COMPASS.

Warner Brothers Execs, do we have to go through all the trouble of killing George Miller's JUSTICE LEAGUE fiasco just so we can get the solo movies of WONDER WOMAN and THE FLASH back or a GREEN LANTERN trilogy based on "Rebirth/The Sinestro Corps War/The Blackest Night"? Because we will. Gladly.

And can we issue a moratorium on
by TerryMalloy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:16:38 PM
those people who criticize the site for not being the first to post news? Is movie news so important that you have to know the moment it happens or your life is over? Get over it.
Please NO James Earl Jones as Smaug!!!
by ZeroCorpse
Dec 18th, 2007
03:17:13 PM
I don't want Darth Smaug. Nobody does.

I'm tellin' you-- Brian Blessed all the way.

aka all the crappy stuff darthbaure
by Happy Boy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:18:04 PM
at least Peter TRIED to respect the books, if he didn't really comprehend them. all that interstitial stuff Fran did wasn't grounded on tolkien's writing but her trying to inject her own impressions onto the works. there was no smeagol and deagol stuff in LOR, no arwen going xena on orcs, no aragorn arwen on the bridge, wormtongue arwen scenes. all that stuff you named is crap. professor tolkien was very meticulous about others adding their own agenda into his work. all those examples you gave serve as proof why Fran Walsh shouldn't go anywhere near the Hobbit
Smaug's voice should be....
by darthbauer
Dec 18th, 2007
03:18:32 PM
Jim Dale, the narrator on ABC's awesome freshman show Pushing Daisies. Wise, strong, British...put a few effects on it, and it'd be perfect. Or they'll just give it to John Rhys-Davies who did Treebeard and was Gimli of course.
Casting ideas
by gingeracrockford
Dec 18th, 2007
03:19:43 PM
How about the following: Young Bilbo: MARTIN FREEMAN Gandalf IAN MCKELLEN Thorin: BRIAN BLESSED Bard: CHRISTIAN BALE Thranduil: JASON ISAACS Beorn: BRENDAN GLEESON Bombur: ROBBIE COLTRANE Balin: JIM CARTER Elrond: HUGO WEAVING Gollum: ANDY SERKIS Smaug (voice): PATRICK STEWART Plus cameos from Orlando Bloom, Christopher Lee, Cate Blanchett and of course Ian Holm as an older Bilbo narrating. Get a Viggo Mortensen lookalike to play an adolescent Aragorn in the second film and you're all set. Plus maybe the three guys from the League of Gentlemen as the Trolls.
HappyBoy
by TerryMalloy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:22:57 PM
Have you ever seen a real live dragon before? Well...I have. So there.
No Fran Walsh = No Heart
by darthbauer
Dec 18th, 2007
03:24:38 PM
You take out Fran's direction on the trilogy and there would be a lot less heart in it. Sure some of it is extra-canonical, but it certainly isn't blasphemous to the material. It's Fran's scenes that make women tolerate and even enjoy the movies as opposed to three hours of Peter's balls out non stop action with zombies and scary eyes and crap. Don't get me wrong I love that too, but together they bring both sides to the table and meld it well.
How about Tom Baker for Smaug's voice?
by SpyGuy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:30:39 PM
Confident and egotistical...That's Tom Baker right there, I'm telling you. And if he can't/won't do it, get the guy who impersonates his voice so brilliantly on DEAD RINGERS.
Happy Happy!! Joy Joy!!
by ATARI
Dec 18th, 2007
03:33:22 PM









































dragons
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
03:33:49 PM
someone a few weeks ago on another talk back said that Dragon Slayer had the best dragons..who ever said that was correct!.I saw it on bbc 2 on Sunday...the dragon in beawolf looks like a computer game, the one in reign of fire is pretty good
I am awake now
by TerryMalloy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:35:09 PM
And I still think complaining about one day old news is lame.
Jeremy Irons as voice of Smaug
by darthbauer
Dec 18th, 2007
03:35:22 PM
Think Scar.....now there's deep, creepy, cocky voice
ArcadianDS
by The Llama
Dec 18th, 2007
03:37:05 PM
Lots of talkbackers think that because that's what the article states--two films.
"Executive Producer"
by Rupee88
Dec 18th, 2007
03:37:10 PM
Since when does the exec producer do shit? It is more of a title than a job...it's just a way to pay off Jackson without admitting they screwed him out of money in the past. The Hobbit seems Jackson-less now.
Mcfly
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
03:37:11 PM
You make shit music that is out dated pop.. http://www.mcflyofficial.com/h ome/
My armour is like tenfold shields
by Rufferto
Dec 18th, 2007
03:39:05 PM
DarthBauer's Right
by James Westfall
Dec 18th, 2007
03:39:09 PM
Irons would be a great voice for Smaug.
my teeth are swords, my claws spears,
by Rufferto
Dec 18th, 2007
03:39:30 PM
Rupee88...read my post above from foxnews
by darthbauer
Dec 18th, 2007
03:39:31 PM
Foxnews dude actually talked to New Line guy and New Line guy says Pete has final say over director, creative choices, etc. etc., and foxnews guy thinks Jackson will actually end up directing these movies. There is yet hope! Keep your head up.
Jackson's heading up 2 new Hobbit films...
by sambrook
Dec 18th, 2007
03:40:03 PM
...and people are busy pissing themselves about AICN's speed? This is news I never thought I'd hear, why aren't people just celebrating that it's happening? Fucking whingers. Some of us come on here because we love movies, some just because they like to moan. Let it go and just be happy!
my wings a hurricane
by Rufferto
Dec 18th, 2007
03:40:12 PM
and my breath
by Rufferto
Dec 18th, 2007
03:40:33 PM
DEATH!
peter jackson
by semisaj
Dec 18th, 2007
03:43:36 PM
Does anyone know if he will ever make cool films like Bad Taste or Braindead again?.. because after King Kong i kinda hoped he would do something fun, interesting and grossly over the top...but no we are getting fucking ginger, pale, quiffy Tin Tin
McFly
by TerryMalloy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:44:02 PM
You're quite welcome.
ZeroCorpse re: Blessed
by James Westfall
Dec 18th, 2007
03:46:21 PM
I'd rather see Brian Blessed play one of the dwarves.
Happy Boy...
by ZeroCorpse
Dec 18th, 2007
03:46:40 PM
Fran's additions were specifically addressing the fact that Mr. Tolkien kinda thought women were useless. Kinda a lot, actually.

In light of how brief and sometimes-offensive the feminine parts of the books were, Fran Walsh's additions were necessary to draw modern viewers into the story-- Especially women. If Tolkien's idea of Arwen were presented on screen, she'd have been a flat, uninteresting, almost insultingly stereotypical character relegated to being a footnote in the battle.

While I normally like a filmmaker to stick with the source material, I do think that Walsh's updates gave these movies a little more sensitivity and heart, and moved them away from the near-misogynistic writing Tolkien offered in his books.

Blessed--- Dwarf
by ZeroCorpse
Dec 18th, 2007
03:47:39 PM
I'd buy that. He'd be excellent as a dwarf. He'd be an amazing Thorin, in my opinion. Prideful, boastful, bombastic... He's perfect.
Yeah...
by flossygomez
Dec 18th, 2007
03:48:30 PM
They're going to de-age Ian Holm for 2 epic movies. Like THAT's not a really stupid idea. Think before you speak people.
I neither affirm nor deny
by TerryMalloy
Dec 18th, 2007
03:50:16 PM
any rumors about who (or who I have not) given (or received) "the clap".