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First??
by odo19
May 15th, 2008
05:38:02 PM
Better Than The Crap Poster
by Crow3711
May 15th, 2008
05:40:27 PM
The poster made it look like the sequel to ZOOM. This is much more in line with my expectations, very cool.
"We stand united against the darkness"
by Stollentroll
May 15th, 2008
05:41:12 PM
Bill Murray sounds drunk. Movie looks retarded. End of comment.
Okay
by somethingcool
May 15th, 2008
05:44:52 PM
Nice atmosphere Stilted acting and stupid music tho
Looks pretty good!
by Super Rabbi
May 15th, 2008
05:46:09 PM
But seemed kinda strange seeing Murray in that role.
Bioshock + Blast From the Past
by Maxer
May 15th, 2008
05:49:40 PM
And Bill Murray!
Renew! Renew!
by GodMars
May 15th, 2008
05:51:38 PM
Right
Good to see that Murray...
by BeeDub
May 15th, 2008
05:53:20 PM
...is out of his "give me an Oscar" phase. As for the trailer, meh.
Needlessly Over The Top Music...
by TroutMaskReplicant
May 15th, 2008
05:56:34 PM
But you got to love that it was filmed in a giant building that was used to paint giant ships. The involvement of Walden media is amusing though. They make films that they believe to have inherent Christian values. But the plot of the film seems to be about questioning received knowledge and blind faith. Maybe it's all about the protestant Christian values ;-p
Suck in the guts, guys, we're the Ghostbusters.
by Alkeoholic77
May 15th, 2008
05:56:42 PM
Kitten, what I think I'm saying is, sometimes, shit happens, somebody's gotta deal with it, and who're you gonna call?!
the mayor(possible spoiler)
by ozzidog
May 15th, 2008
06:05:07 PM
Bill Murray is an actual good fit based upon the book since he is sort of an egotistical buffoon that is a piss-poor leader. Okay, bring on the Bush comparisons.
Rapture...where are the Big Daddys
by effector12
May 15th, 2008
06:05:30 PM
Bill Murray is committing Eddie Murphy-Pluto Nash career suicide. Well maybe it's not that bad.
Look for the clues!
by Herb West
May 15th, 2008
06:12:53 PM
It's like National Treasure for little kids. This even looks bad for a kid's movie.
reminds me of Fallout.
by BMacSmith
May 15th, 2008
06:18:20 PM
except i guess they spend the whole movie trying to get out of the vault.
City of Rapture, sorry, Ember
by newc0253
May 15th, 2008
06:21:03 PM
i kid, i kid.

i'm actually pretty intrigued. i don't know anything about this other than its based on a kids book, i think, but the premise is really interesting (i'm a Fallout fan), the art design looks great, and Bill Murray in anything is always good.

Movie > Trailer
by ThomasServo
May 15th, 2008
06:24:17 PM
The trailer was crap, but I can kinda see a cool movie in there, somewhere. Aw, who am I kidding? I'm a Bill Murray fanboy so I'm there.
Looks like a mess
by CarmillaVonDoom
May 15th, 2008
06:24:19 PM
Sucks, I really wanted to like this one.
you look like a mess
by dr sauch
May 15th, 2008
06:25:45 PM
eat it. Murray pwns.
No seriously, this looks great
by dr sauch
May 15th, 2008
06:27:29 PM
in that "City of Lost Children"/"Pans Labyrinth" kind of way. Looks like a lot of work went into the mythos behind the city, I want to read the book.
Yeah, the music bugged me out, had to close it
by wilsonfisk89
May 15th, 2008
06:32:39 PM
Over the top is right, jeez.
Why do they keep giving Gil Kenan movies to direct?
by TooWhippy
May 15th, 2008
06:33:19 PM
Didn't Monster House loose money?
the city
by vaterite
May 15th, 2008
06:34:59 PM
The trailer reminds me of Dark City mixed with Delicatessan, with the kids from Narnia. In that sense, I suppose it can't help but be awesome.
Walden Media
by THE TRUE PINBACK
May 15th, 2008
06:35:24 PM
Just the name Walden Media sends up the caution flags. So far, in my humble opinion, everything these people have been involved with film-wise has been CRAP! These chumps are just riding the coattails of the successes of the HARRY POTTER and LORD OF THE RINGS franchises. They have an innate ability to turn kid-lit fodder into films, but that doesn't make what they do good. It's all just totally forgettable, cookie-cutter big screen pap.
Wait a minute...
by Herb West
May 15th, 2008
06:43:39 PM
Are we sure this isn't just a watered down version of "The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas"? Sounds like it to me. For those who don't know, TOWWAFO is a disturbing short science fiction story by Ursula K. Le Guin. http://tinyurl.com/5zutwm
the city looks awsome...
by virtual_ninja
May 15th, 2008
06:44:59 PM
very bioshocky
*cough*FALLOUT*cough*
by ZombieKingdom
May 15th, 2008
06:52:31 PM
Just like the vault dweller situation in the rpg classic "Fallout". A "Fallout" movie might be better...
Vibe
by krodnoc
May 15th, 2008
06:59:46 PM
I'm getting a strong Bioshock vibe from the art direction, which isn't a bad thing. I'm looking forward to watch Keenan can do with live action, I loved Monster House.
this is going to be....
by merricks15yearoldson
May 15th, 2008
06:59:47 PM
ok with Murray (weird casting btw) and Robbins or fuckin shitty like everything else lately
Grammer...
by krodnoc
May 15th, 2008
07:00:16 PM
is not my strong point.
Same Thoughts About Walden Media...
by BoggyCreekBeast
May 15th, 2008
07:02:49 PM
Trying hard to make a franchise and blows every attempt. I'll wait for Bioshock.
wait a minute...nobody said Dan Aykroyd was...
by theonecalledshoe
May 15th, 2008
07:07:23 PM
going to be in this picture! But seriously, Bill Murray.. okay now I'm interested. I cant' wait for the fall. Ghostbusters game and this. yeehaw!!!
Anyone else reminded of LOGAN'S RUN?
by odysseus
May 15th, 2008
07:10:11 PM
Seems like a very 1970s "escape-the-city-before-dying" plotline.
Looks like The City of Lost Children as directed by Chris Columb
by blackmantis
May 15th, 2008
07:12:41 PM
I think I'll skip it.
Inspired visuals? Really?
by mr.brownstone
May 15th, 2008
07:15:33 PM
That was painful to watch.
I loved the look of Monster House...
by mr.brownstone
May 15th, 2008
07:16:10 PM
just for the record.
yeah this looks like crap
by Holodigm
May 15th, 2008
07:17:41 PM
i really hope for the movie's sake it's not as bad as this trailer
grueman
by Sawney Bean
May 15th, 2008
07:18:03 PM
You know, I don't know which is scarier, the fact that you're actually calling out to Dickblood to come or the fact that you love him so much that you actually remembered his whole username, complete with the underscore.
I almost don't want to make a Fallout comment...
by Baked
May 15th, 2008
07:30:10 PM
But too late. Where's my damn Fallout movie!?
No Need for a Bioshock movie then.
by FILMFUNK
May 15th, 2008
07:42:04 PM
Looks interesting though i'm not keen on the wee girl from Atonement but that might just be because she was a total LifeWrecking shit in that movie and therefore a very good actress so I will watch this and try not to think of Ghostbusters every time Bill shows up.
Ghostbuster's 3: In the future
by happybunni
May 15th, 2008
07:49:49 PM
What if this is really the 3rd Ghostbusters flick? I mean they are releasing a Ghostbusters game around the same time. Concidence? I think not. Just play the ghostbusters theme while watching this movie. And imagine that Bill Murray is really playing the ghost of Dr. Peter Venkman .. Oops, I am sorry for ruining the twist!
The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas...?
by TroutMaskReplicant
May 15th, 2008
07:49:55 PM
Sounds to me more like Dark Universe by Daniel Francis Galouye http://tiny.cc/lt53j Although in fairness the dying underground post-apocalyptic city trope seems even older than the sixties. I wonder if anyone is planning a film version of Brian Aldiss's Non-Stop...?
City of Lost Children & Bioshock - YES, Logan's Run - NO
by DynamixRo
May 15th, 2008
07:53:45 PM
I think it looks kind of great.
by Novaman5000
May 15th, 2008
07:54:26 PM
The music is a little overdone and the trailer could have been edited better, but i'm loving that we're seeing some new sci-fi concepts being brought to the big screen.
And I will also spoil the ending.
by happybunni
May 15th, 2008
07:55:54 PM
The two main kids, along with two other kids they meet along the way, and a non-speaking pet that is very ghost-like, uncover the clues.. and before the door to the world above is a chest, they open it and find ghostbuster uniforms and proton packs. The door opens.. to reveal a world taken over by ghosts. Ghosts, and multiple staypuff marshmellow men walking down the empty streets. This movie was amazing.
Non-Stop versus Orphans of the Sky...
by TroutMaskReplicant
May 15th, 2008
08:00:14 PM
http://tiny.cc/ufO15 http://tiny.cc/ou4eB Fight! Fight! Fight!
TooWhippy, they keep giving him movies b/c you're an asshole
by beastie
May 15th, 2008
08:01:55 PM
Just kidding. I thought it sounded funny. Anyway, I wouldn't say the 2 movies merits the term KEEP. It's only his second and the first was considered an critical success that just didn't have the right marketing in a summer filled with shitty CGI movies. It looks like they are marketing the hell out of this one though.

To me, this looked great and like someone above me said, better than the poster.

If this ends up being...
by IKnowStuff
May 15th, 2008
08:02:05 PM
The Village / The Island 2, I might get pretty annoyed, though I think it'd fit better in this movie than the other 2. I did think Monster House was pretty awesome, so this has some hope. I also think this trailer was way too dramatic way too fast, and did nothing to set up the tone of the movie or what's actually happening in the City of Ember. Sloppy trailer's often lead to poor box office results.
The village 2?
by germanico
May 15th, 2008
08:02:38 PM
Let me guess the outside world is still alive and well and that's what the characters will end up discovering?
Shot in Belfast......
by macpharmacy
May 15th, 2008
08:11:14 PM
they used one of the old Harland and Wolff (shipyard that built the titanic) hangars as a soundstage for the city sets. Just a bit of trivia for anyone interested.
THIS MOVIE'S VIBE IS UNCANNILY LIKE BIOSHOCK
by BurgerTime
May 15th, 2008
08:13:29 PM
The producers of Bioshock should sue and make twice the bank before the movie even rolls out of pre-production.
DynamixRo: by "LOGAN'S RUN" I meant...
by odysseus
May 15th, 2008
08:17:34 PM
...a similar archetypal plot, not production design.
TroutMaskReplicant
by Herb West
May 15th, 2008
08:20:56 PM
But can you read the entire text of Dark Universe or Orphans of the Sky online? I also have no idea what The Edge of the Eighties [Box set] page was all about.
Whoa, "Tunnels" ripoff.
by AnnoyYou
May 15th, 2008
08:37:39 PM
Not to mention a slight rip-off of a sequence in Diana Wynne Jones' "The Merlin Conspiracy." Still, I guess it is a steampunk dream come true. Who made this again?
No one's going to mention Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter?
by DarwinMayfIower
May 15th, 2008
08:42:06 PM
Because it feels exactly the same...even moreso than Bioshock. At least in Bioshock you could have avoided going into Rapture, but Breath of Fire you start off in an underground place.
OMG, Playtone is conspiring with the dreaded Walden?
by AnnoyYou
May 15th, 2008
08:42:11 PM
I'll never forgive Walden for eviscerating the great "The Dark is Rising" and turning it into a de-paganized fake-Potter crapfest. This movie looks as if it will blow too, being ripped off from several sources. Anything Walden produces is a shell of its former self. Bleh.
Fuckin Tim Robbins....
by JBouganim1
May 15th, 2008
08:43:40 PM
First he escapes from Shawshank and now this.... Stealing ideas from kids
How is the books. I hear its great.
by Lovecraftfan
May 15th, 2008
09:05:04 PM
Anybody read it?
I don't get it
by Rat Fink
May 15th, 2008
09:14:48 PM
what the hell is the movie about?
Hollywood continues the tradition
by jemagee
May 15th, 2008
09:18:08 PM
of TOTALLY SCREWING up good books...the best part of the city of ember, which is a good book though i haven't read the sequels yet, is that it's played out as a mystery...they don't tell you right up front what's going on...you are as lost as the characters...sure you probably figure it out faster than they do, but the fracking trailer just gives it all away...thus continuing my belief that any book i ever enjoyed reading will be destroyed...god i hope they never make neuromancer or snow crash (though on the plus suck, this piece of cinematic flotsam can't be worse than what hollywood did the first book i ever remember reading, the dark is rising, that abortion should be burned and everyone involved including ian mcshane flogged for eternity)
I'm interested...
by The Grug
May 15th, 2008
09:31:00 PM
But I don't think it's because of what this trailer just showed me - it's the stuff I read the other day about it (with the poster) combined with the visuals (which look fantastic)
RIP OFF!
by chilledpills
May 15th, 2008
09:44:51 PM
this REEKS of an old movie called DARK CITY!
WHOA! Was that Bill Murray?
by 2sdaychicken
May 15th, 2008
09:46:08 PM
He'll do this shite, but not Ghostbusters 3? Jackass... That was probably one of the worst trailers I have EVER seen too. I have NO idea what the movie is about, and it looks terrible.
WHOA! Was that Bill Murray?
by 2sdaychicken
May 15th, 2008
09:46:26 PM
He'll do this shite, but not Ghostbusters 3? Jackass... That was probably one of the worst trailers I have EVER seen too. I have NO idea what the movie is about, and it looks terrible.
The visuals look stupid as fuck...
by 2sdaychicken
May 15th, 2008
09:47:54 PM
Like Spy Kids 4 or somethin.
Walden Media and Millenium Films/Nu Image
by Gozu
May 15th, 2008
09:48:29 PM
are are kind of fucking everything up left and right and need to stop. They get one or two famous actors to appear in their films, market them to the exact same audience in the exact same way and their actual output ranges from mediocre to awful.
Wow, everyone is so quick to judge
by red_weed
May 15th, 2008
10:00:07 PM
I'm looking forward to this movie. I'll admit this trailer didn't do much for me, but I still think this could be a great adventure film. I loved monster house and I love the look of this. Hopefully the next trailer will be a better sell.
If you think it's a 'great' adventure
by jemagee
May 15th, 2008
10:05:51 PM
READ THE DAMN BOOK
Dark City meets 12 Monkeys
by harper54
May 15th, 2008
10:11:57 PM
Reminded be of a couple scenes from 12M, not the whole movie.
Anybody dig The Shield?
by malificus
May 15th, 2008
10:14:50 PM
Man that Vic Mackie.....you know....just saying...

by jemagee
May 15th, 2008
10:16:09 PM
Is he that dude who was in the Fantastic Four? now THAT was some talent
It's not Chiklis' fault Bashful Benjy sucks..
by malificus
May 15th, 2008
10:21:52 PM
..but that's a whole 'nother thread, please stick with the hijack in progress...
Brazil meets Delicattesen meets Narnia
by future help
May 15th, 2008
10:24:04 PM
meets Metropolis meets 12 monkeys
Tim Robbins will ruin this too
by BrowncoatJedi
May 15th, 2008
10:40:19 PM
He ruined War of the Worlds as soon as he showed up. As with most things he appears in.
Excellent Bioshock atmosphere...
by mefrog
May 15th, 2008
10:45:21 PM
But what the hell was with that music?
Browncoat!
by malificus
May 15th, 2008
10:48:29 PM
Check yourself, FOO! That's Tim Fucking Roberts you're talking about, and that guys earned his chops.
Bill Murray,
by Stevie Grant
May 15th, 2008
11:07:28 PM
is one of the very few comedian actors around who can be funny and intimidating all at once, and he's defined the whole "ennui" thing. This post isn't directed at anyone in particular, just in the general direction of those that talked shit about Murray: he's very good when in a role that suits him.
Bill Murray
by Series7
May 15th, 2008
11:27:27 PM
I know I've said this before. But I saw him at whole foods a month or two ago. And it was so random, like A) out of all the celeberties I thought I would ever just randomly see, would've never guessed that it would have been him. 2)He was the worst dress person in the store, but I guess if I were Bill Murray I probably wouldn't give a shit about what I wore either. I was too much in aww and respect to bother him, plus he kind of looked pissed.
Very good kid's sci-fi book
by Larry of Arabia
May 15th, 2008
11:41:52 PM
Flys off the shelves of my children's library. Many of our students are very excited about this.
SO BE GOOD! For goodness sake! WHO-O-OAAA...
by Zeke25:17
May 15th, 2008
11:45:15 PM
SOMEBODY'S COMIN'! Get outta here, ya knuckleheads, I mean it!
"Maaaaybe...You'll think of meeeee..."
by Pumpkinjoe
May 15th, 2008
11:50:47 PM
Fallout rip off! As long as it doesent have any radscorpions or big green supermutants, I'm cool.
looks fun
by krushjudgement
May 16th, 2008
12:49:37 AM
I'm in
Yet another family friendly bore fest...
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 16th, 2008
12:56:43 AM
...just like Narnia and Chimp-The Movie (aka Peed Racer) and Eragon and dozens of others.

ENOUGH ALREADY! Nobody cares about this cheesy kiddie crap!

Wow Bill can't leave that gopher alone....
by groorgman
May 16th, 2008
01:11:32 AM
I mean building a underground operation to kill one gopher....Caddyshack and the Kingdom of the Dead Gopher.
Bill Murray? Intimidating???
by The Grug
May 16th, 2008
01:22:29 AM
Huh?!
I'm sorry but.....
by D o o d
May 16th, 2008
02:20:34 AM
that looks rubbish and boring..!!
looks like 12 Monkeys
by Fortunesfool
May 16th, 2008
03:03:09 AM
But, you know, for kids!
Harper54...
by BiggusDickus
May 16th, 2008
03:11:07 AM
...stole my thunder! Definitely a Dark City meets Twelve Monkeys vibe happening in that trailer, only wrapped up lovingly in a big ol' steampunk blanket.

And Bill Murray, too.

I'm there, people!

Doctor Zoidberg...
by BiggusDickus
May 16th, 2008
03:15:03 AM
I respectfully disagree. Not everything Murray touches if automatically funny.

I speak from experience here, having sat through Garfield with my daughter.

There's ninety minutes of my life I won't be getting back anytime soon...

Finally...
by methosb
May 16th, 2008
03:59:14 AM
a 'kids save the world' movie that actually looks at least half decent.
Escaping from Ember leads to Clearwater Florida
by Dingbatty
May 16th, 2008
04:14:06 AM
Please, no more Carmina Burana rip-off soaring choir soundtracks for sciffy/fantasy movies, you hacks!

by RJMcReady
May 16th, 2008
04:51:59 AM
Utter bloody nonsense!
Utter Bloody Nonsense! Crap effetcs too
by RJMcReady
May 16th, 2008
04:52:30 AM
Damn you, George Lucas!
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 16th, 2008
05:25:41 AM
Damn you to hell!
"he's defined the whole "ennui" thing"
by malificus
May 16th, 2008
05:59:28 AM
That's gay.
D o o d...
by beastie
May 16th, 2008
06:13:44 AM
... I need to use the word "rubbish" more often. Are you English? Do you think it would sound awkward for an American to use it? I think it sounds cool. I'm not making fun of you - despite the fact that I disagree and think the movie looks cool - I'm just asking if it's kosher for an yank like me to use that word. I know I can't get away with "bollocks" and "bloody hell" - I've tried.
Logan´s Run 2: Escape from Zion
by CuervoJones
May 16th, 2008
07:01:10 AM
This OCTOBER!
In THX 1138 sound!
by CuervoJones
May 16th, 2008
07:03:24 AM

This year's Little Miss Goonies
by mondoz2
May 16th, 2008
07:22:14 AM
I got a serious Goonies vibe off this. Goonies meets Bioshock?
beastie...
by BiggusDickus
May 16th, 2008
07:36:55 AM
Use 'Rubbish'! Go for it, mate!

You Yanks seriously need to upgrade your cussing! I mean 'asshole', what's that all about? An ass is a donkey, isn't it? With a hole in? No no no, dear boy, it won't do at all. Try shouting 'Arseholes! really loudly (lose the 'h' - go with 'Arse'oles!') Doesn't that feel good? Doesn't that get it all out of the old system? 'Course it does! You know it makes sense.

When you're comfortable with that, you can elaborate - 'Arsecakes!' and 'Arsebiscuits!' work well. Then, why not move up to such classics as 'Knackers!' and 'Wanker' (which is criminally under-used on your side of the pond)

Just experiment, fella. Swearing's even better after a few ales. Say it loud - say it ploughed!

Fucksocks to the lot of you...

BiggusDickus, THANK YOU!
by beastie
May 16th, 2008
08:29:11 AM
Arsebiscuits will be in my regular vocabulary by the end of the day. And maybe fucksocks. But have the Brits ever tried out "Dicklips"? That one is pretty good. Also, I'm a big fan of the E.T. classic penis breath.

I don't like "wanker" because, over here, it's synonomous with gutter punks. And no one wants to be considered a gutter punk. That shit is so mid-80's. Also, as much as I hear it in Guy Richie movies and read it in Irvine Welsh books, "cunt" does not sound good with an American accent. It sounds so vulgar, misogynist and abusive. Hearing a Brit or a Scot say it, though sounds great.

And one last thing about the US. I read the John Cleese letter to the United States and know that most of you think most of us drink shit beer, but I'll have you guys know, that you're mostly right. Colorado and Oregon, however have top-notch microbrews. The breweries in, at least Colorado, send the brewmasters over to various countries where said beer originated to study how it's made. Just letting you know we don't all drink Bud and Miller and Coors.

Gorgeous!
by Roguewriter
May 16th, 2008
08:35:34 AM
Looks like CITY OF LOST CHILDREN, or a slightly less twisted Terry Gilliam future, BRAZIL-style. Bring it on!
Dark City Meets Terry Gilliam?
by cowboyone
May 16th, 2008
09:40:49 AM
Could be cool, and I really love the MS internet explorer logo.
This looked really
by Series7
May 16th, 2008
10:13:08 AM
Cool, very city of lost children. But I couldn't help but noticing it looks like it has the same plot as National Treasure almost. In how they find things that are clues and thats the entire movie really. Hopefully there is a lot more then just that.
Let me guess, they get out and find out
by Mace Tofu
May 16th, 2008
12:31:18 PM
Global Warming was a scam and they didn't have to live underground for 200 years. Life above ground went on and the surface people forgot about Al Gore's underground EMBER project.... still this could be fun in a MOM AND DAD SAVE THE WORLD way I hope.
pretty good teen novel
by bacci40
May 16th, 2008
02:58:23 PM
postapocolyptic teen adventure that sold well and has a strong core audience...should do well in theeaters...and no, the kids dont die...and yes, there are still surface dwellers
WTF???
by Stevie Grant
May 16th, 2008
09:26:20 PM
Has anyone saying this looks like The City of Lost Children actually seen that film? I get there's little lighting, but, aside from that, there is zero City of Lost Children vibe happening there. This looks like a film 8 year olds could watch with zero side effects or nightmares... how the hell does that remind you of City of Lost Children?
beastie...
by BiggusDickus
May 17th, 2008
05:21:43 AM
I see your point regarding Guy Ritchie. Even before the associated furore of marrying Madge, we had him down for the dull, one-trick 'Mockney' he really is. 'Cunt' is not a pleasant word in any accent and so should be avoided.

Your point about beer is sadly all too true, though bear in mind that most of us Brits drink shite like 'Carling' and 'Stella'; 5% chemical rubbish brewed in nine days in the same vat. I guess the American equivalent would be 'Coors' or (shudder) 'Budweiser'. Having said that, America is home to possibly the finest microbrewery on the planet. Check out Oregon's 'Rogue Ales'. Their 'Chocolate Stout' and 'Dead Guy Ale' are the best reason I can think of for owning a throat...

BiggusDickus, Rogue is wonderful! But I like
by beastie
May 17th, 2008
10:19:23 AM
Dogfish Head. It's fucking expensive but when I have the money - MY GOD it's worth it. If you ever find anything by Dogfish Head in the UK, by all means pick it up. Also anything by New Belgium (Fort Collins, Colorado) that is not Fat Tire is worth a try. On a side note, it's nice to see a GOOD American beer get recognition overseas. I know our reputation for bad beer and it put a smile on my face to see that you knew about it.

Really? Apparantly, I had the wrong impression of the "C" word in the UK. I thought that it was something that guys could call eachother when joking around. Over here it's only used in the ugliest of manners.

Also, if you have any suggestions of British ales for me to look for, I am more than willing to try anything out. And yeah we have Stella and Carling, it's somewhat popular amongst people who drink shit beer and pretend to be snobs.

Stevie Grant. The film itself doesn't, but the sets do.
by beastie
May 17th, 2008
11:39:56 AM
I don't know. I can see their point. It's certainly not the first thing to pop into my head, but I can see som CoLC in this. It reminds me of Henson stuff (minus the puppets but more set design) of the 80s.
beastie - I've made a note
by BiggusDickus
May 17th, 2008
12:25:34 PM
...of your recommendations and in August when London hosts the annual Great British Beer Festival, I will be heading straight to the USA section and checking out Dogfish Head and whatever I can find by New Belgium! Cheers for that, fella! It was hell last year. Rogue didn't show up so I had to wade through five different Samuel Adams brews. Great stuff!

Anyway, if you can find them out there, a few recommended British bottled beers are Wychwood's 'Hobgoblin', Morlands 'Old Speckled Hen', Shepherd Neame's 'Bishop's Finger' and Fuller's '1845'. They're all around the 5.5% mark and are big, fat, full-flavoured ales - just the way I like'em! Happy hunting!

Oh, and Carling and Stella snobs?
by BiggusDickus
May 17th, 2008
12:36:53 PM
Over here, these are the drinks of the underclasses. Stella, for example, goes by the nickname 'wife-beater'. Awful stuff. It's probably great as a brew in it's country of origin, but once they buy the licence and brew it in the UK, it turns into piss. Same thing happened to Red Stripe, Orangeboom, Carlsberg and Michelob, which is why I steer clear of lagers these days.

Hey, maybe we ought to set up a new site - Ain't It Cool Beers...

I've saved your recommendations...
by beastie
May 17th, 2008
04:03:45 PM
... in my things to look for document. The best liquor store in my town is right down the street from me and they import all of their own beers instead of going through a middleman. Sometimes, those imports are pricey, but if I can find the ones you mentioned, I'll get one every payday. Most but not all of my favorite brews tend to be 8% or higher. I don't drink beer to get trashed (I save that for cheap whiskey) but I've noticed that the higher the alcohol content, the richer the flavor. My favorite brewery is located in town, and their all into saving the environment, so they don't even ship their beers to anywhere outside of a 50 mile radius. Anyway, every year they release Special Edition Imperials of all of their beers which end up being 11% - 16%. But when I only have a couple of bucks in my wallet, I end up drinking about 6%. I'm definately checking out what you said, though.

Hit me up if you see me in another talkback as I bet this one will be off the main page soon.

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by beastie
May 17th, 2008
04:06:43 PM
Join The Zone. There are a lot of good threads there and people are a lot more civil than in the talkbacks.
Stengah
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May 17th, 2008
07:25:07 PM
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