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Massawyrm Completely Falls For Tarsem's THE FALL!!

Either that, or it's self-indulgent poo... by tonagan	May 23rd, 2008 07:31:59 AM
Which is what many other reviewers have said. Guess I'll have to see for myself (I liked The Cell, actually).
Damn You Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	May 23rd, 2008 07:32:58 AM
Damn You Michael Bay
Interesting.. by Darth_Valinorean	May 23rd, 2008 07:37:01 AM
.. at the very least. And I like the review a lot. Creative in itself and inspires curiousity as well.
Airwolf the movie, when? by EvilWizardGlick	May 23rd, 2008 07:38:17 AM
Jan Micheal Vincent gotta eat.
What...? by TroutMaskReplicant	May 23rd, 2008 07:56:27 AM
"One of your buddies decides that he needs to come be with you for a while – nothing gay like holding your hand and telling you it’s all gonna be okay or anything – just hanging." Pfft.
cool. by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	May 23rd, 2008 07:56:42 AM
i liked the cell. for both its visuals and for Vincent DeNofrio's(sp?) performance. i would love to see another movie by the same dude, but i wonder how long that style can maintain an audience. could we see 5 or 6 films done teh same way, Massa? would we get bored?
Alright. by Jaws Wayne	May 23rd, 2008 07:58:10 AM
Sounds great Massa. Although I liked The Cell as well, I'm a sucker for amazing and imaginative cinematic visuals, and Howard Shore's score for that is fantastic as well. Some fantastic jump- scares in it too. But this sounds like a heavy-duty must-see film, so thanks for the article.
Is adult swim by Series7	May 23rd, 2008 08:13:04 AM
Helping out with the icons now? I wanna see this movie. BUT the only independent/art house movie theater near me decided that it'd be better to get POSTAL instead. God how do people fucking get into movies? Its like hey I enjoy movies I should work for them? Seriously. I've actually complained to the movie theater for not getting this film and opting for Postal. Demanding that they tell me how they came to this decision. I eagerly await their response.
Ok lets by Series7	May 23rd, 2008 08:19:41 AM
Face it. Price Naseem can direct the hell out of some crazy outlandish shit, that works well in music videos. And his two movies seem to have the common thread of heres reality and heres crazy gonzo MC Escher/Salvidor Dali land. And the Prince seems to not be getting the real world right. Why not for his next movie just make it all based in batshit crazy world? ...... OK PAUSE, www.greatglam.com????????????? ??????? what the fuck? I mean I've seen some random ass ads on this site, but I think that tops it. Were there some hidden fees for Harrys operation? Ok anyways, Prince Naseem may have been the undefeated one punch knockout king of the lightweights but I've totally fergot what I was talking about.
Series7 by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	May 23rd, 2008 08:28:45 AM
you lost me, dude.
I loved The Cell. Whats wrong with style over substance in conce by Spikey	May 23rd, 2008 08:44:50 AM
I reckon all the haters just hated on the cell because they were told to. Most reviews went something like "Such blatant style over substance is bad m'kay so you gotta hate this film", and sure enough we got style over substance and most fell for it. Is a still picture of a beautiful woman still not beautiful without any emotional involvement or personality present? If it were only ever presented as a series of frames in an art gallery it would be praised. If you want to hate and be dissapointed that badly then go right ahead. Ill appreciate it as it was meant to be and be happy.
I like surreal stuff but by oisin5199	May 23rd, 2008 08:53:05 AM
Massa's description sounds like the worst nightmare (or worst trip) ever. I'm curious, especially 'cause I dig Lee Pace from Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies, but I'm skeptical.
I Found the Cell to be Awesome by topaz4206	May 23rd, 2008 09:08:57 AM
and thrilling -- even J-lo and Vince Vaughn acted well in it -- a feat they haven't been able to pull off in the same YEAR, much less the same movie. It's worth watching again -- give it another chance.
topaz4206 by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	May 23rd, 2008 09:18:06 AM
i liked the cell as well, but the plot was a super thin method of moving us from one spectacular mindscape to another. visually it was amazing, obviously, but i understand the problems peopel have with the plot. it didn't send Tarsem into my neverwatchamoviebythisguyagain bag, though.
people. by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	May 23rd, 2008 09:19:07 AM
obviously.
I dug the Cell, too. by BirdMcMonster	May 23rd, 2008 09:26:31 AM
I think it was a lush, inventive take on the serial killer genre. I can't wait to see this film.
If you want to know much more about the making of this film... by ArchCarrier	May 23rd, 2008 09:26:43 AM
...check out this very insightful interview at the AV Club: http://www.avclub.com/content/ interview/tarsem
The Cell by PedroM	May 23rd, 2008 09:46:50 AM
I liked the movie, and what problems you guys have with it? I dont have any, as far as i can remember Looking forward to Tarsem´s (weird, is that the way he´s marketing himself?)new movie... I remember some years ago that he was up to direct Constantine but jumped the wagon when Nic Cage was supposed to play John...
Excellent film by BranMakMorn	May 23rd, 2008 10:48:41 AM
I would vote Tarsem for an ELRIC Melnibone film or even CONAN.
Classic Gilliam by Flying Spaghetti Monster	May 23rd, 2008 11:09:12 AM
Python Gilliam or Brazil Gilliam...or hell, 12 monkeys Gilliam...I dont know what you mean!
Heard this movie was horrible by spectrebeeyatch	May 23rd, 2008 11:32:13 AM
I might go check it out now thanks for the review!
Looking forward to seeing it- by wilsonfisk89	May 23rd, 2008 11:32:35 AM
Good review
been looking forward by Stevie Grant	May 23rd, 2008 11:34:05 AM
to seeing this film more than anything else than Indy or Iron Man
ArchCarrier by JackLint	May 23rd, 2008 11:34:11 AM
Thanks for that link, that was a pretty amazing interview. I urge everybody to check it out.
by Stevie Grant	May 23rd, 2008 11:35:24 AM
obviously didn't edit that last statement so well, I meant I've been looking forward to The Fall more than Indy or Iron Man
ArchCarrier is right... by DeadPanWalking	May 23rd, 2008 11:48:36 AM
... check out the review on the AV Club (http://www.avclub.com/content / interview/tarsem) and you'll at least better understand what went on with The Cell. Also, it'll give you more reason to check out The Fall and let you understand a little more about what Tarsem's thinking (which is WAYY eff'd up but also quite ingenious.)
Now eets ze time on Tarsem ven ve daance! by Thick McRunFast	May 23rd, 2008 11:51:12 AM
I can't say this guy's pretentious one name unless I do it in a "Sprockets" accent.
Okay, let's stop with the "Damn you, Michael Bay" shit by Mr.Meanie	May 23rd, 2008 12:35:17 PM
It's really getting old. Fast.
Read review to a certain point, guess where? by Polk Fly Lice	May 23rd, 2008 12:51:17 PM
Zoolander 3: The Wrath of Catinca Untaru
Gatsbys West Egg Omlet by Series7	May 23rd, 2008 12:53:11 PM
Its ok man, I lost myself in that one a bit too. I am just pissed off that I'll probably have to wait till DVD to see this movie.
You aint Fooling me..... by D o o d	May 23rd, 2008 01:50:58 PM
that cell was shit so I aint paying any money to see his movies..!!
This is my most hyped film of the summer by kungfuhustler84	May 23rd, 2008 03:52:08 PM
and has been since the first trailer. Batman comes after this one on my list. It looks so fucking incredible!
was that supposed to be a fucking review? by PhxMonsterGuy	May 23rd, 2008 04:43:29 PM

WTF Massawyrm....what a lazy assed review by PhxMonsterGuy	May 23rd, 2008 04:46:12 PM
I seriously doubt you saw the film. Anyone who has seen the trailer could have wrote this. What a fucking lazy half assed posting. Damn you are so fucking worthless to this site, your "reviews" could be shit out by some swollen butt baboon.
Tarsem-a true original by KurtLockwood	May 23rd, 2008 05:28:10 PM
In an age of W.S,, McG, RATner, et al. I would rather sit thru 24 hours of Tarsem's uncut dailies than anything by the above mentioned hacks. A true auteur of cinema.
Freed from..... by bmumtw4	May 23rd, 2008 05:54:16 PM
The Cell was the only dvd my ex gave me back when we split up.
I can't wait to see this! by Gozu	May 23rd, 2008 06:25:07 PM
I just found out it's coming to my area next week and I'm psyched! This looks like one eye orgasm after another. If it's as good as it looks, I hope it gets a wider release, critical acclaim, and more work for Tarsem. This, "Red Cliff," and "Dark Knight." And "WALL E." Okay, so maybe there are some good films coming out...
hahahaha by TheDudeintheShadows	May 23rd, 2008 07:39:56 PM
i just like massawrym's little graphic. the six armed joint is farting some purple sticky punch smoke.
I agree with Massawrym by Droogie Alex	May 24th, 2008 12:38:52 AM
I loved this film. and am going to see it again. Most of the stright press didn't like it, but I really got a lot out of it. A cross of Pan's L/Princess Bride/Barron Von Munch.
I've heard there's no CGI used in The Fall by bswise	May 24th, 2008 12:40:43 AM
Rather, Tarsem employed unique uses of traditional optical effects, al a Georges Melies and Jean Cocteau, and, of course amazing art and cinematography.
The Cell wasn't great by Bass Ackwards	May 24th, 2008 01:46:28 AM
But it certainly wasn't the trainwreck Mass seems to imagine, over night joke? Tarsem didn't write the flick, which is where most of its fault was, and hollow as it was, that Tarsem had talent was pretty obvious, I doubt there were too many people eagerly writing him off.
KurtLockwood makes a public fool of himself by half vader	May 24th, 2008 02:19:25 AM
Maybe that's a bit harsh - I'm glad you like him and all, but really man, look in a few art books and you'll cringe at the original comment. He's not just 'inspired by', he outright steals and he's shameless about it. Holy cow, even he should've known everyone saw the slowmo dervishes shot in Romanek's (who also cribs from fine art but adds more to it at least) Madonna video. In Spike and Fincher I trust though, and I'll go see it if only to wash the taste of The Cell from my mouth.
The Cell wasn't nearly that bad by Proman1984	May 24th, 2008 07:58:26 PM
Give me a break. And yes, the guy's good.
Sounds wicked-cool by Jack_Diablo	May 24th, 2008 10:59:02 PM
I found The Cell very visually pleasing (particularly J-Lo in her panties ;) but I was pretty young when I saw it. To be honest, it scared the shit out of me. I'm glad to hear that this one will be so much better and it sounds fun as hell!
half vader = half brain by KurtLockwood	May 24th, 2008 11:47:02 PM
Maybe that's a bit harsh but honestly, show me a single director that DOESN'T rip off other directors. Cinema is a recombinant art form, it's the director's own personal twist that makes them stand out from others and for me, Tarsem is of singular vision, twisted yet majestic.
Maybe not harsh ENOUGH. by half vader	May 25th, 2008 02:45:10 AM
I'm a half-brain because I called you out for not knowing the meaning of a word as simple as 'original'? Your reply is completely redundant. You first said "a true original". Meaning he's NOT one of those directors that rips off others. Learn to write. Now you've made a fool of yourself twice. Once for not knowing what original means, two for forgetting why I ragged on you in the first place. His wholesale lifting of images WITHOUT filtering is completely at odds with your SINGULAR vision assertion. My point was he DOESN'T (from the Cell and the trailer for this) put his own 'personal twist' on it. Hopefully the full movie will change my mind a bit. But the same fucking elephant shot? Come ON man. I wrestle with the unoriginal thing, and I've come to the conclusion that if it's in context and can be justified in terms of storytelling then it's fair game (but you can NOT claim originality). HOWEVER, if the image distracts the audience from your story because they're thinking of the earlier use of the image, you're both a thief and a bad storyteller because you're too greedy to know it's working against you. You haven't looked in those art books yet have you? Dude, come back when you're open and gracious enough to admit the error in your original (geddit?!) choice of words.
Maybe no brain by KurtLockwood	May 25th, 2008 03:39:09 PM
I'm going to try to go really slow here so that you can understand.... It is Tarsem's particular "twist" that gives him his "singular vision." He can rip off himself and still be singular a la Picasso and his "blue period." And even if it is "the same fucking elephant shot" as you so intelligently put it, again, it is the overall recombination that is what makes him unique and appealling to me. To wit, I can appreciate "Stairway to Heaven" on the merits of itself as a song tho it is widely accepted to have been a rip off of Spirit's song, "Taurus," whom Led Zep toured with. I can appreciate "Stairway" on it's own merits (and like it better) than it's source material and still think it is it's own song, the same with Tarsem's movies, or more blatantly anything by Tarantino. And you are only embarrassing yourself publicly with your 'learn to write' comments, halfwit.
Ho ho, maybe it's time to give up... by half vader	May 25th, 2008 10:18:28 PM
Forget the art books mate and look up a dictionary and the word 'original'. Your 'learn to write' comeback was pretty hilarious though, considering your "he can rip off himself"! So much for open and gracious. Also too bad you can't get over yourself ("go really slow so you can understand"!) enough to stop arguing the second thing rather than conceding your original mistake which if you recall was your description of him as "a true ORIGINAL". By your own comments about recombination you contradict it! I guess you can't even agree to disagree on that. I'm not even going to start on why you don't know the meaning of the word auteur in relation to The Cell. Try being a bigger man and see beyond yourself and your apparent infallibility. Later man.
Yep, you should give it up by KurtLockwood	May 26th, 2008 01:15:16 AM
I was going to respond but just found myself repeating the same points which let's face it, an obvious trogladyte as yourself just can't grasp concepts that are not in stark black and white so I will recognize your mental incapacity to delve deeper and leave it at that. " Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead."
troglOdyte by half vader	May 26th, 2008 09:33:20 AM
I rest my case.
I liked The Cell! by dr sauch	May 26th, 2008 10:56:24 AM
C'mon, its good, and you guys know it. It's creepy and visually arresting, even if the plot is out of a CSI-meets-Star Trek episode. And D'onofrio and Vaughn are fucking great in that movie. I dunno why people hated it.
Series7 by jamestewart007	May 26th, 2008 03:08:21 PM
I feel your pain dude. My theater isn't even getting Speed Racer! There is no god!
yawn by KurtLockwood	May 26th, 2008 04:11:10 PM
More like you rest your brain, half-wit.
The Fall by Dingbatty	Jun 2nd, 2008 02:13:52 AM
Captivating film.

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