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Sir Ian McKellen To Play The New Number Two In THE PRISONER Remake Miniseries??

Good casting. by mr_macphisto	Jun 9th, 2008 08:40:58 PM
I miss "Gone".
I think McKellan.... by mr_macphisto	Jun 9th, 2008 08:44:09 PM
...would have been NOTE PERFECT as Astrid the Genius in the "Gone" movie.
Better not get in the way of... by Dataset	Jun 9th, 2008 08:47:28 PM
The Hobbit
I am not a number... by Dataset	Jun 9th, 2008 08:48:22 PM
I am... Jesus Christ!
Glad to see this back on track by Aloy	Jun 9th, 2008 08:55:12 PM
Looking forward to the scenes with the dreaded giant beach ball.
Spoiler Alert: Number One's gonna be McGoohan--again! by MrMysteryGuest	Jun 9th, 2008 08:57:10 PM

OK...maybe not...:P by MrMysteryGuest	Jun 9th, 2008 08:58:48 PM

Sounds good! Rover! by D_T	Jun 9th, 2008 09:05:50 PM
Agreed on the casting, seems good to me. Hahaha, we have his big, white workout ball and it always reminds me of Rover (the big, spooky balloon that retreives McGoohan). When we were in the UK we visited Portmeirion in Wales - I ran down the beach Prisoner style (elbows tucked in) - yes, we drink alot on that trip :^)
only one number 2? doesn't that miss something? by jccalhoun	Jun 9th, 2008 09:29:17 PM
Honestly, part of the weirdness is that there were several number 2s. If there is only one it will have a much different feel. Honestly, the original Prisoner is one of those things that is pretty darn perfect in its own way. I find it hard to see any remake even approaching the quirky of its time weirdness of the original. While its themes can be made to be very effective in this current society of "war on terror" and surveillance I'm just not sure that it can be successful.
You had me at McKellan... by Bungion Boy	Jun 9th, 2008 09:32:15 PM
and you lost me with Caviezel. The Jesus movie aside, he's never really impressed me. Kind of always bores me, especially when he's paired with better, more interesting actors like Guy Pierce in Count of Monte Cristo for example. I was skeptical about this project early on. I'm not convinced it will be good. Wasn't Chris Nolan going to make a feature of this? Why doesn't Ian jump on to that ship instead.
I am NOT a number ! No wait.. I am :-) by G100	Jun 9th, 2008 09:51:42 PM
Number one was a Gorilla !
Better Number Six=Clive Owen. by Hesiod2k7	Jun 9th, 2008 09:52:43 PM
McKellan good. Dump Caviezel.
Caviezel=Not smart guy by Hesiod2k7	Jun 9th, 2008 09:54:31 PM
He actually gave an interview to some in flight magazne saing he was inspired to rtake the part of Jesus in Passion of the Christ because he was the same age as Jesus when he was crucified (supposedly) and he HAD THE SAME INITIALS!
Caviezel?? by aversiontherapy2	Jun 9th, 2008 09:54:50 PM
No no no.
Yeah, what's up with only one Number 2??? by JackIsLost	Jun 9th, 2008 09:57:32 PM
It should be different in every episode, like the original. I don't understand this and I am not one of those that immortalizes the original. I really love some episodes but it never really came together to tell one coherent story. So, there's room for improvement (in my opinion) but one thing I do know is you MUST have multiple Number 2's (even if some get multiple episodes). That's all.
Maybe they can cast all the fat Harry is hoping to lose... by JackIsLost	Jun 9th, 2008 09:59:41 PM
as the Rover. Now THAT would be scary as hell rushing at you.
Caviezel casting = #2 by Hesiod2k7	Jun 9th, 2008 10:00:29 PM

McKellan is too old!! by duncanwk	Jun 9th, 2008 10:02:19 PM
What is he like 79.
Number one... by duncanwk	Jun 9th, 2008 10:03:14 PM
I order you to take a number two.
The twist is... by snowpuff	Jun 9th, 2008 10:04:47 PM
...the finale will be shown on the SciFi channel in 2019!!
Airs where? by fiester	Jun 9th, 2008 10:27:23 PM
Is this a BBC project?
So far, not bad. by kabong	Jun 9th, 2008 10:33:29 PM
Even if he is old, McKellen is a powerful presence. Caviezel is not strong enough to balance the conflict. Guy Pearce would be good as Number Six . . . and maybe he could drag Chris Nolan into it. Sign that the prod is going off the track is if they cast Verne Troyer as the butler.
Huh!? Would rather see by Darkocity	Jun 9th, 2008 10:56:23 PM
a one off film tackled by Nolan, and was it the twelve monkeys? writers, than a remake that will inevitably be a shadow of the origional. The prisoner was more than for example, about the emerging or revolving conciousness and id of its time; it was a piece entirely of this time in every respect of the creative team and culture behind it if that makes sense. Every true fan knows it was more than just a little of a personal passion project for McGoohan, after leaving Danger Man. Don't get me the wrong the themes and ideas, like 1984 say, are timeless in a sense, like those in the Matrix being traced back to Plato's cave and The Polis etc, but McGoohan and his creative crew and the public that were consuming it at that time which founded the basis of its 'cult' status up till now, are not. Kind of makes me nervous like if you were to take...Fantastic Planet and rework it as a fraggle rock style miniseries...okay thats a terrible example cos fraggle rock was great and actually meant for kids...but...im sleep depraved/deprived and sarky i hope they don't fuck this up or have it seriously undermine the genius tightrope between percieved insight and insanity; in an ever emerging big-brother society, industry and culture, that the origional um, traversed and...nailed? so well. After all its not like Ron Moore's oversseeing it. Sleep...yes sleep...more objectivity...sleeep.
The Prisoner is one of my favs... by Etrigan_	Jun 9th, 2008 11:05:57 PM
I guess I'll finally find out what it feels like to have my childhood rapes. As much as I'd like it to be, there's no way this can be good unless they change it a lot (it's not the 60's anymore). They may as well make a different movie, or spin off from the original.
I mean.. by Etrigan_	Jun 9th, 2008 11:06:54 PM
raped. Though that's kinda funny...
The Prisoner remake? by one9deuce	Jun 9th, 2008 11:12:59 PM
It can't possibly end worse than the original. I had never even seen one episode of The Prisoner until I rented them on DVD. I absolutely love the opening of the show, I loved the first 11 or 12 episodes, and I was positively frothing at the mouth to see how it was going to end........ SPOILER ALERT It ends like shit. The last three episodes are complete garbage. I was appalled at how poorly they were made. The only explanation I can come up with is that the main creative team did a little too much LSD and mushrooms toward the end of the series.
Jim Caviezal (like I give a shit how it's spelled) by Big Bad Clone	Jun 9th, 2008 11:16:31 PM
I can not stand this guy. I mane, he may be a great guy off screen but evrything about his performances drives me up the wall. His accent in Frequency was like having being pulled by my ears over road made of razor blades.
Thats the best spolier ever by Darkocity	Jun 9th, 2008 11:19:03 PM
one9duece. You didnt give away anything!
Oh good another Bu$Hilter analogy Maybe Zionist Jews will be b by jbs0209	Jun 9th, 2008 11:45:26 PM
Oh good another Bu$Hilter analogy Maybe Zionist Jews will be blamed too Well it will make those actors involved popular at parties. Screw creativity and believability. You know what would be really great? If the place was run by Southern Christians and Jews. Maybe they can have a Snidely Whiplash mustachio that they twirl. Not bad enough that they have to bottom out creatively on a remake they keep digging with the expected Bu$Hilter Chimpy McHaliburtin analogy. Maybe they'll get creative and corporations (ohhh) will be ... wait for it ... evil. Here is an untried idea, why don';t you make the villain a left-wing NGO?
Compared to the original by jbs0209	Jun 9th, 2008 11:46:56 PM
Where it was never really stated who the bad guys were Although taking a bus (IIRC) to London was a bit of a clue.
Theme Song . . . by Jarro	Jun 10th, 2008 01:03:07 AM
. . . by Maiden. Done and done! In fact, they should do a soundtrack.
6 of 1 is a great site by bacci40	Jun 10th, 2008 01:39:29 AM
one of the first places i found when i first got addicted to the net...but caviezel is an awful choice...and the gag about the new number 2, is that there is a new one in each epi, as the last one failed to get number 6 to break...the only number 2 to return was leo mckern...i really wish they wouldnt remake this, and if they had to, the only guy to be number 6 is eccleston...he is perfect
one9deuce...sorry you didnt get the finale' by bacci40	Jun 10th, 2008 01:43:36 AM
was never meant to be close ended...the viewer is always left to wonder if the villiage is a creation of number 6's mind or a real place...i think the final 2 episodes are the best stuff ever put on video tape...and lost fans should be required to watch the prisoner
Jim Caviezel? Hardly the first person I'd think of to play No 6 by newc0253	Jun 10th, 2008 02:25:02 AM
Ian McKellan, on the other hand, would be a natural for no. 2.
mother fuckers by TinSpider	Jun 10th, 2008 02:56:45 AM
This shouldn't be remade. It was a product of it's wacky 60's time. I breathed a sigh of relief when I head sky had dropped the project because of the creative differences from the us backers, but it looks like it's back on. And Bacci... you are right. The ending is one of the bravest ever to be put out.
Doubtful by critch	Jun 10th, 2008 03:12:49 AM
Jesus and Gandalf are far too big to be in a miniseries. If it was an actual movie, sure, but this is really unlikely.
Wrong casting for number six.. by wowsah156	Jun 10th, 2008 03:28:06 AM
The Prisoner was an archetypal English story about how a man rebels against the system in an intelligent English mannered way. Caviezel doesnt have this type of up bringing. Bad casting. Also the storyline will need to be along the lines of something that David Lynch would write. It has to be arcane weird, and occult. The only person who could pull of Number six in the 21st Centrury would either be Sean Pertwee, or David Tennant.
=NOT(ISNUMBER(#6)) by mulberry	Jun 10th, 2008 04:03:29 AM
They talked about Christopher Eccleston for this a few years back. That would have been good, but they need to go for international audience (therefore American hero, English Baddie)
Mel Gibson... by DC Films	Jun 10th, 2008 04:48:29 AM
was gonna make this a few years back - then he did Passion of The Christ instead. That obviously starred Caviezel, so i wonder if Mel was eyeing Caviezel for the number 6 role back then and his interest/involvement is a hangover from that! Maybe!!! Personally i think Caviezel is an excellent actor, but i'd expected to see someone more along McGoohan's lines - idiosyncratic and enigmatic, as someone mentioned already, David Tennent, or Chris Eccleston would be good. McGoohan played it in a similar way actors approach Dr Who. Anyhow, no reason it has to be a similar performance to McGoohan, so long as it all work within it's own logic, and Caviezel when given the chance Caviezel impresses.
No.2 should change each episode by V'Shael	Jun 10th, 2008 05:15:22 AM
That was kind of the point.
TinSpider and everyone else by bacci40	Jun 10th, 2008 05:41:57 AM
there is a very good mini doc on the prisoner up on youtube, that basically goes through exactly why it is a landmark in tv series as it works on so many different levels and yet remains entertaining...one could say, it was the wire of its day, albeit a sci fi/spy show that was attempting to deal with all of the issues that people were struggling with, and mcgoohan wanted to deal with...i got to watch it in its original run, when i was a kid...to me, the show was an extension of danger man/secret agent...i didnt get the socio/political/religious commentary...then when pbs ran it years later, i understood what mcgoohan was trying to say...to me, its pretty amazing when a tv show is crafted in such a fashion...whatever they do with a remake, it wont be on the level of the original...it cant be...it was too personal a project
What Happened To Eccleston? by tomdolan04	Jun 10th, 2008 06:01:49 AM
I thought he was pretty much locked to the project. Bah. He was pretty much the only guy I was open to for this remake, since McGoohan OWNED this role. His quirky mannerisms and his fierce determination (you get the feeling in interview he was as evasive, playfully intelligent and passionate as number six, if not more so) simply cannot be replicated. The Prisoner is not a perfect series, but it's far far greater than the sum of its parts. As the years go by it's the one that stands out in my mind and simply is not comparable to any other TV show. A project of passion, the likes of which won't be seen again.
Lets cut to the chase and remake everything! by Yeti	Jun 10th, 2008 06:26:33 AM
No matter how good, bad, or unwarranted.
Number Six played by--- by Sw0rdfish	Jun 10th, 2008 07:20:33 AM
Hugh Laurie. I've thought so since I first ever saw the guy.
my casting by Celtican	Jun 10th, 2008 07:24:59 AM
Number 6 - Damien Lewis Number 2 - Stephen Fry
Clive Owen or Gerard Butler would be much better as Number Six by SpyGuy	Jun 10th, 2008 09:21:21 AM
Number Six needs to have a solid secret agent/James Bond vibe to him, as well as an intensity that Caviezel simply doesn't have. Oh, and to those children bitching about the ending to the classic PRISONER, I'm sorry if you need a finale that's simpler and less open to debate and interpretation. Perhaps you should watch reruns of THE HILLS instead.
the egg chair from MIB has been cast by ArcadianDS	Jun 10th, 2008 10:25:45 AM
as a chair in one of the oddball offices. SPOILER: McGoohan makes a #2 in it.
the ending is pretty brilliant by jccalhoun	Jun 10th, 2008 10:47:12 AM
just because nothing is explained explicitly doesn't mean that the end isn't really good. I mean just the scene where we find out that we've been told the identity of number one in the opening credits of every episode and didn't even know it is enough to make this a great ending.
If Lost ends anything liek The Prisoner... by Node32774 by DennisMM	Jun 10th, 2008 11:04:40 AM
Promise? One less person running around screaming about the brilliance of "Lost" is a step in the right direction.
English! British! by DennisMM	Jun 10th, 2008 11:13:06 AM
The Prisoner (don't call him Number Two - the production wasn't allowed to) must be British. He must have a certain coolness paired with a somewhat painful intensity. Good also if he's fairly attractive. Daniel Craig IS The Prisoner! Kidding, kidding.
This has promise by mr dark	Jun 10th, 2008 11:43:57 AM
When I first heard about this long rumored on and off again project I hoped it would never see the light of day..It would be blasphemy to remake such an awesome tv series..But I'm warming up to the idea with casting like this.. I don't think Mc Goohan will partake though from what I've heard he wants nothing to do with it anymore..
Ka bong by mr dark	Jun 10th, 2008 11:46:32 AM
yeah Mini me as the butler would be a sign of pure box office poison..
This is stupid. by Johnny Smith	Jun 10th, 2008 12:21:27 PM
You don't mess with a classic. Also, LOST will end like The Prisoner, because Jacob is a time-displaced Jack.
Will the big balloon still be around? by Pizza The Hut	Jun 10th, 2008 01:02:41 PM
I think this may suck, especially if it gets too high techie-tech (every movie is these days). If anything, the tech has to be downright creepy, "old school", mechanical in nature, and not easily explained. Not filming in Portmeirion will be a big drawback. "The Village" and "Rover" were stars in their own right, as was the music. Also, I don't like the casting for No. 6.
C'mon, LOST already is THE PRISONER. by SpyGuy	Jun 10th, 2008 01:16:51 PM
Smoke Monster = Rover 2.0.
Dude, CLIVE OWEN, Totally by LaserPants	Jun 10th, 2008 02:56:39 PM
Not Jeebus! Thats all wrong! McKellan will surely rule though. The final episode of THE PRISONER is, hands down, the greatest ending to a brilliant series EVER. I really hope they don't fuck up the legacy.
Node - re: Heroes by DennisMM	Jun 10th, 2008 03:55:43 PM
I don't watch television much. Have seen first two years of "Lost," season one and part of season two of "Heroes," and I found both shows got dull after a bit. "Heroes" is overloaded with characters and didn't know where it should go. "Lost" became a gimmick show by the end of season two. The people were far less important than the "weird shit" that kept happening. From what I've read it's even more of a gimmick show having finished season 4. "Battlestar Galactica" makes them both look sick.
six of one is legit by sonnylarue	Jun 10th, 2008 03:57:08 PM
they are the longtime prisoner fan organization, that puts on conventions at the Port Meridian resort where the 1960's show was shot. They've been around since the 1970's , and have always been "in the know " on Prisoneer Info.
This rumour looks very unlikely! by Lew Stringer	Jun 10th, 2008 04:29:40 PM
I think Sir Ian McKellen will be too busy elsewhere to lend any credence to this rumour. He's on international tour with the RSC and will be in Australia when he's alleged to be filming in Libya: http://london.broadway.com/sto ry/id/3006542
I thought this whole project was scrapped... by Kelvington	Jun 10th, 2008 05:04:01 PM
Didn't this whole thing get scrapped after Christopher Eccleston left it? I doubt this will ever see the light of day.
Reliable Prisoner site by Lew Stringer	Jun 10th, 2008 05:13:34 PM
Seems that Six of One may have cobbled together this rumour from various sources. I used to be a member of that fan club and these rumours date back years. Nothing has ever come of it, and given Ian McKellens other commitments (touring with the RSC) this looks very unlikely too. For a reliable, independent, Prisoner news source not affiliated with the fan club, visit: http://www.theunmutual.co.uk There's also an independent Prisoner convention in July. All profits to to a charity for terminally ill children. If you're interested in attending visit: http://www.theunmutual.co.uk/p m2008.htm
Re: Jon Frakes by KazamaSmokers	Jun 10th, 2008 08:05:44 PM
I don't understand Frakes' career. I've liked every movie he's directed, and yet they've all been huge bombs. That guy has terrible luck.
I wonder if #2 should change every episode... by password.swordfish	Jun 10th, 2008 09:21:32 PM
Sorry, it just seems like 95 people have already pointed that out, and I clearly felt like being an asshole. McKellen does almost no wrong; the man is phenomenal. His name attached to anything is a draw, as far as I'm concerned. Especially after his explanation of acting to Andy in Extras ("you are aware I'm not really a wizard, aren't you?").
Oh and DennisMM by password.swordfish	Jun 10th, 2008 09:25:03 PM
I was with you at the end of the 2nd season for Lost, but stuck with it. Halfway through season 3 it got MUCH better, the finale was jaw-droppingly awesome, and the 4th season was stellar. I too have the BSG love-on like mad, but it doesn't negate my ability to enjoy Lost. Why do we, as geeks, assume that liking one thing that we think is superior to others mean that we can't like anything else? Hate to break it to you, but the Wire is even still superior to BSG, but I still loved them both.
PRISONER = LOST = GOOD THING by theseventhshore	Jun 10th, 2008 09:31:37 PM
Take a careful look at the title font for 'LOST'...and you'll see it throughout the Village. Rover/Smokey parallels are undeniable. The Prisoner was about a man's struggle to destroy his own Ego in the face of rampant imperialism/capitalism/socio-p olitical pressure. LOST will be about something similar for its main characters (especially Jack), in the face on a spiritually-bankrupt modern lifestyle. Island=Bardo Realms=Fuck Yeah!
i've watched the first 2 episodes of The Prisoner so far... by nalapou	Jun 10th, 2008 09:58:16 PM
And I'm not very impressed... I enjoyed Nowhere Man, and Lost is my favourite show ever... I'll keep watching though...
i like caviezel by bright	Jun 10th, 2008 11:28:30 PM
his politics aside, he'd a very good actor, especially good at showing intensity. he can communicate a lot with a look - see the thin red line. he'll be fine.
Hmm... I have information by SKULL1138	Jun 11th, 2008 07:12:43 AM
You never heard this from me, but the No 2 will change each episode. I have seen the location shots of the african village, very weird looking for africa Everyone is numbers same as the old one, and no one allowed to talk about who they really are, but does not have all the weird surreal stuff of old one. Whats under the village is a question that should be asked? First I have heard of Caviezel, but then, when I was getting info they had not cast it yet They wanted Daniel Craig until CR took off and then they wanted Gerard Butler until 300 took off.also eccleston was mooted a while back as well, but he passed it up. I strongly suspect that Paddy McGoohan will be making a cameo in this as well. Saying no more, but i have read one of the scripts, not sure which episode it was though. Ta ta
WHO DOES NUMBER TWO WORK FOR? by Anakin Whoopass	Jun 11th, 2008 07:15:34 AM
That's right buddy, you show that turd who's boss.
Africa by SKULL1138	Jun 11th, 2008 07:17:34 AM
I acn confirm the Namibian african location is spot on, I forget name of town, but you can probably find pictures of it on google or something I have seen the location, so they have that bang on. No idea if McKelln is correct, but as I said they will change every episode, this is a definite, but they dont wnat to tell people this yet, so probably be lots of star cameos in this role, McKellen may just be one of them?
McGoohan needs to be involved. by Uncapie	Jun 11th, 2008 10:52:30 AM
He's the brains behind the series. "Reimagining" this series is total bullshit.
Agreed this is nothing without... by tomdolan04	Jun 11th, 2008 11:09:21 AM
McGoohan. Nothing. He was the creative tour de force behind this and pressured Lew Grade during the 60's to make this happen. If it were upto the networks of the time he would have been Dangerman for decades, unmasking the James Bond style 'Number 1's' that the Prisoner's climax was the antithesis of.
Anyone else read the comic from 20 years back? by DennisMM	Jun 11th, 2008 11:51:04 AM
A CIA agent who had walked away from the Company much as the Prisoner had done was shipwrecked on the beach while sailing a yacht around the world. When she woke she was facing the egg-chair, occupant in deep shadow. She asked where she was. The Village, the she was told. And you, said John Drake - leaning forward from the shadows, gray haired and long-bearded - you are Number Six. It went badly downhill after that, but it was interesting.
DennisMM...i have the comic by bacci40	Jun 11th, 2008 01:34:13 PM
and while uneven, it wasnt that bad
Why does everyone thinks the ending by Darkocity	Jun 11th, 2008 03:17:58 PM
of the Prisoner sucks!? It was great, it actually gave you something to take away and think about leading on, rather than just putting all the ideas to bed; or saying "oh well, Number 2 kicked some real ass and took those Prisoner bastards and their evil complex down so i guess thats that, viva la revolution!".
...well not everyone, but... by Darkocity	Jun 11th, 2008 03:26:36 PM

Darkocity by DennisMM	Jun 11th, 2008 03:39:22 PM
I like the interpretation suggested by the comic - when The Prisoner chose to be Number 1, he compromised his own principles. No matter that he chose to be the leader, he still made himself a number. The end of the episode showed us his fantasy escape. Of course, there's also the interpretation that it's not Number One or even Number 1. Rather, it's Number I - "I" and The Prisoner asserts his identity rather than loses it.
God forbid by WickedChicken37	Jun 11th, 2008 03:54:52 PM
Someone comes up with a new idea. Oh I know lets remake Happy Days or Murder She Wrote. How about a remake of Green Acers? Or even a remake of Matt Houston. Can we get three different productions of Alice, Good Times and One Day at a Time going?
WickedChicken37 by Pizza The Hut	Jun 11th, 2008 10:32:42 PM
Exactly... Does Hollywood have even one brain among them anymore? How many variations of Law & Order and CSI do we need? ...not to mention Dateline and prime time 1 million dollar game shows?
when they remake the godfather by bacci40	Jun 11th, 2008 11:39:49 PM
with labouf as michael...im gonna kill myself...seriously...a bullet to the brain
bacci40 and laserpants by one9deuce	Jun 12th, 2008 02:13:04 PM
Concerning the ending I think your both seeing something that isn't there. Patrick McGoohan himself says they didn't know how to end it. Well, obviously. And "all in his mind" is the WEAKEST story device in the history of literature/cinema.
Christopher Eccleston by EyeofPolyphemus	Jun 13th, 2008 06:43:24 AM
Eccleston would have made a better Number Six.
Eccleston by SKULL1138	Jun 13th, 2008 09:29:25 AM
They tried to get him, he knocked it back, dont know why. Also lets remember that JC is not confirmed thats a rumour that we cant verify right now, all the others pretty much can be verified. Not saying its false, I just dont know
Daniel Craig would be awesome and it would fit by CrichtonAstronut	Jun 19th, 2008 05:35:30 PM
too. Like McGoohan as Danger Man before the Prisoner. Spy, then imprisoned ex-spy. And Daniel Craig's the new Bond. It'd work.
Anyone remember that Invisible Man episode by CrichtonAstronut	Jun 19th, 2008 05:53:53 PM
homage to the Prisoner, with their version of the Village as a retirement community for spies wo knew too much. and it included a nod to the Avengers.
Trying to find that comic MM by Darkocity	Jul 3rd, 2008 01:04:58 PM
after claiming to be a true Prisoner Fan! Thats an interesting interpretation; it always seemed as if the clues were in the title of each episode: "Who is Number 1?" "You are Number 6". Have about 3 main ones roughly, and they all shift in focus every time i rewatch the ending. This post is beyond late in response. Damn a shitty country internet connection, it makes you miss all the beats & rythms going on.

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