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Holy fuck that sounds good!
by Playkins
Jun 12th, 2008
03:30:38 AM
Can't wait for Friday!
I am stoked!
by apolo_sputnik
Jun 12th, 2008
03:34:43 AM
BSG is the best show on TV. Its hard to believe this is the final season!
It must be some type of vicious cycle.
by NoPIX
Jun 12th, 2008
03:35:45 AM
Everything has happened before and it will again...the players will be different, etc. It seems like it's everyone's destiny to keep repeating this cycle. Wormholes maybe? I'm rambling.
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
by Lip Up Fatty Fatty Reggae
Jun 12th, 2008
03:37:51 AM
I reckon they will find an empty earth with signs of a war between machines and man.... But I can't wait to see Revelations!
Streams on SciFi.com starting 9am ET Friday
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Jun 12th, 2008
03:40:30 AM
every hour on the hour. who would actually wait for nighttime to watch it??!??
Look back to the first episode?
by EyeofPolyphemus
Jun 12th, 2008
03:41:22 AM
Was the destruction of Caprica by the Cylons revenge for the destruction of Earth or was Helfer referring to something more existential?
Happening before and happening again
by socalactor
Jun 12th, 2008
03:42:17 AM
I think a poster on yesterday's galactica talkback probably hit it pretty close: The majority of humanity will spawn the polytheistic religions of ancient Earth (see Athena, Apollo, Hera, etc) and Baltar's "Cylon God" cult will be the first monotheists and the whole cycle will start again.
Crap
by Mr_X
Jun 12th, 2008
03:53:23 AM
i have to wait till Friday and then a whole year! BSG you bitch!why do you hate me so?
Well,
by spyro
Jun 12th, 2008
03:56:02 AM
in my humble opinion the 4th series has been pretty boring so far although you can tell it's been building up to something massive. Hopefully we won't be let down and won't have to wait a ridiculously long time for the second half of the season....
Friday...
by melchior42
Jun 12th, 2008
03:59:55 AM
Could be 2009 for how far away it feels right now...
I was there
by Droogie Alex
Jun 12th, 2008
04:02:21 AM
Pretty mindblowing. There are no cliffhangers here, you will see everything by the end of the episode. Everyone raised their right hand and promised not to spoil, and I won't, but there were times I had tears in my eyes. Olmos is fantastic here, and to see this projected in HD on a giant screen...it could have been a BG movie for real. The ship looked like a ocean liner in front of me. I got to talk with the head of the Sci-Fi network, meet Katie Sackhoff & Jane Espenson, see Tricia Helfer's underwear more that once (the ladies all had short skirts, and I was in the 5th row. I see london...) talked with show composer Bear McCready on seeing his BG concert a few week back, and got stuffed with free food and drink. I got to do all this by being given a suprise VIP pass for being a member of the Editors Guild. I thought Tricia Helfer was very tall, and I'm 6'2". A pretty terrific evening. I've been to some great events working here in H'wood, and I'm very greatful for it.
I wasn't there
by Mr_X
Jun 12th, 2008
04:05:21 AM
but i reckon someone dies. and someone says "frak". am i right? am i?
Jesus, Herc
by Strabo
Jun 12th, 2008
04:08:07 AM
You've really raised my expectations here. I hope the episode lives up to your rhetoric. Also, according to the official site, they will be broadcasting the ENTIRE episode online starting at 9 am on Friday. Not the first act crap they've been doing for the last half dozen episodes. I can't fucking wait.
You just set a pretty high bar for me, Herc
by cyrent
Jun 12th, 2008
04:09:55 AM
Maybe it'll all be clear on Friday night after I've seen it, but sitting here right now I don't see how anything could be quite as "what the frak, amazing" as Tigh and Tyrol being Cylons with All Along the Watchtower playing in the background.
I saw it too
by Shoegeezer
Jun 12th, 2008
04:17:02 AM
and it's incredible. It covers enough ground for several episodes, it's almost too fast in the second half. Leaves plenty unanswered as well, the tracking shot at the end is a classic.
Wow.
by mrfan
Jun 12th, 2008
04:41:15 AM
Very excited about this.
Can't wait to see this.
by Psyclops
Jun 12th, 2008
04:59:06 AM
I thought last week's episode packed an emotional punch, especially those final moments when Roslin and Adama are reunited, but I can't wait to see what's going to happen now. Too bad we're not getting the rest until next year.
ok, I'll say it again, in a non-spoilery mode:
by RaveX
Jun 12th, 2008
05:07:04 AM
moore, if you airlock you-know-who, people posting spoiler will be the least of your worries.

and that's not even a threat.

it's a friendly warning.

Cannot wait to see the Chief's reaction...
by mrfan
Jun 12th, 2008
05:17:51 AM
when he finds out Tory was the one who airlocked Callie.
Planet of the Apes type shock when the find Earth!
by HarryBlackPotter
Jun 12th, 2008
05:49:36 AM
Yep. They reach Earth only to discover that it's ruled by goddamned dirty apes! Apes I tell ya! Damn them all to hell!
Hillary as VP? Worst fictional president ever.
by EvilWizardGlick
Jun 12th, 2008
05:55:18 AM
Jesus just proved herself a mindless fembot.

The Clintons suck ass, always have always will.

I lost any respect I may ever hve had for McDonald.

The Bitchification of Adama continues.
by EvilWizardGlick
Jun 12th, 2008
05:57:11 AM
Why don't they just dress Bill in a skirt, throw some makeup on him and be done with it.

The once proud male Bill Adama has been slowly sexchanged into a weeping slobbering woman this season.

Fuck Sol cap his ass before the get to the peepee snipping.

Why only ONE resurrection ship?
by EvilWizardGlick
Jun 12th, 2008
06:00:26 AM
Christ the Cylons following the fleet are millions of light years away from those one Caprica and the rest of the colonies. Thee Cylons following the fleet are possibly billions of light years away from their home world. Yet there is a SINGLE resurrection ship for all those bots.

It doesn't make any sense.

Happened before, will happen again?
by red_weed
Jun 12th, 2008
06:09:37 AM
Is anyone else thinking timetravel here? self fulfilling prophecy? Perhaps the earth they find becomes caprica in the future? I'm sure they have something greater than that u there sleeve. at least I hop so. i'm frakin excited!
Time Travel
by EyeofPolyphemus
Jun 12th, 2008
06:15:48 AM
There have not been any hints of time travel elements before. it would be a huge cop out to do so now.
yeah
by red_weed
Jun 12th, 2008
06:25:43 AM
you're right. that's just the first thing that poped into my head. they are smarter than me though haha
I was already amped
by Oberon
Jun 12th, 2008
06:28:15 AM
But Herc has raised the expectations even more. Despite what some think, I think in many ways this has been the best season so far. If I'm to be denied regular Galactica for the rest of the year, I can live with it more easily if it ends tomorrow with a bang.
Colour me skeptical...
by DarthScotland
Jun 12th, 2008
06:38:09 AM
/me has heard talk of 'biggest most mind blowingest episode ever' before. /me Remains doubtful, hype is never a good thing Mr Herc, shame on you. /me waits to be pleasantly surprised.
I never got into Galactica
by KnightShift
Jun 12th, 2008
06:47:44 AM
But Herc's write-up on this is compelling me to watch it from the very beginning.
It's Planet of the Apes / Baldios alla over again! And I knew it
by DanteS2005
Jun 12th, 2008
06:54:52 AM
You know what i'm talking about, they get to the earth and they find out that they're in the past and that thehy are the founders of the 12 colonies. Pretty much like it happens in Planet of the Apes or better, exactly like it happens in Baldios, a superb japanese "giant robot" anime from 1984 if I recall correctly.
Colour me there
by Kentucky Colonel
Jun 12th, 2008
07:04:02 AM
As if I had anything else to do anyway. Fuck, it's getting hard to stay up past 10 pm these days. Having a child, even a man child, is a lot of work! But damn is he the greatest thing. I can't wait to share stuff like this with him. At the age of five months he's already been introduced to the Looney Tunes & Batman TAS DVD's. Not that he understands a thing, of course, but the music & the lights seem to rock his little world. I'll be back after the show tomorrow.

Cheers!

Do you live near a "WaWa" ?
by Kentucky Colonel
Jun 12th, 2008
07:07:55 AM
FYI: WaWa is a gas station/ food mart chain on the East coast. This morning they rolled out a new summer promotion: Hoagiefest. The only reason I bring it up is that the graphic accompanying the ad is a spot-on take of a "Yellow Submarine" still with a very John Lennon looking guy holding a submarine sandwich. Awesome. If you are interested, Hoagiefest seems to run from June 9th untill August 3rd. Get your tickets now.
"It’s the characters, stupid!"
by snowpuff
Jun 12th, 2008
07:10:25 AM
Well, thus far season 4 has not been about the characters. The characters have been serving the story, for the first time on the show (as I've complained about repeatedly this season).

Looking forward to the finale!
So now everything's okey dokey, is it?
by jae683
Jun 12th, 2008
07:36:13 AM
Herc's talked to Moore and cast, and now all is forgiven (buddy-jesus tumbs up)? I'm sorry, I think Moore has lost sight of this series after the second season. I don't know how he could possibly pull this mess together. 'God is Love?' Oh, for crying-out-loud. But hey, if it's your cup of tea, more (no pun intended) power to you.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
by Smoke Monster Loves Kate
Jun 12th, 2008
07:38:35 AM
SOMEONE PLEASE UPLOAD THIS TO RAPIDSHARE/MEGASHARES AS SOON AS THEY CAN.

I can't download from this country in any other way!

More like "it's the actors, stupid"
by Smoke Monster Loves Kate
Jun 12th, 2008
07:40:23 AM
The writers have consistently given them the stage to act out emotional/dramatic scenes. It's like each episode is a showcase for 2 at a time.
Man.
by Smoke Monster Loves Kate
Jun 12th, 2008
07:42:13 AM
I'd give anything to hear old man Adama roar "Get your hands off me, you damn dirty skinjob!" at some point.
wait- Michael Jackson's an exec on SciFi?
by Maniaq
Jun 12th, 2008
08:01:29 AM
that explains so much...
happened before and will happen again
by Maniaq
Jun 12th, 2008
08:12:45 AM
I think I just figured out how it ends - they end up on Earth - and it's 1980!!

bring on the flying motorcycles!

A question for all you...
by ghost_matt
Jun 12th, 2008
08:20:17 AM
I've never seen an episode of Galactica. I've seen a few minutes of it here and there. But despite my brother's ravings about it I always thought it looked like Star Trek and I wasn't interested. However I watched that special at the beginning of this season where they had fans talking about why they like the show. It had Joss Whedon calling it the best show he's ever seen. Also I'm a Lost fan and on every Lost talkback there would always be people saying things like "OMG I can't believe we get both these shows at the same time!!" So I'm intrigued. But do you think somebody who doesn't like Star Trek would like this show? I read that Ron Moore was the exec producer of DS9. My favorite shows are Lost, Angel, Buffy, Firefly, X-Files, and Twin Peaks.
Drink the Kool Aid, Matt
by Kentucky Colonel
Jun 12th, 2008
08:24:13 AM
and join the party.

ps: Google "Jim Jones Kool Aid" for your daily lesson.

"we will see a side of Bill never before glimpsed"
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
08:38:53 AM
Gods I hope that doesn't mean we see his naked ass
Series Finale Predictition
by blindambition238
Jun 12th, 2008
08:42:08 AM
I predict the fleet reaches Earth and finds the remains of the original (1979) Battlestar Galactica on its surface.
blindambition
by greatmoose
Jun 12th, 2008
08:43:59 AM
That's exactly what I'm thinking. And I'm totally OK with that.
Oh, and chrth
by greatmoose
Jun 12th, 2008
08:45:40 AM
You know that's what it means. YIKES!
Frak, Frak, Frak
by zer0cool2k2
Jun 12th, 2008
08:46:10 AM
I made plans to take my wife to a concert and hotel Friday for our anniversary. (These plans were made after James Callis and Aaron douglas had to drop out of a local con here due to filming). now i'm going to have to wait until late Saturday to watch this! not to mention that Callis and Douglas wrapped, are back on for the con (FedConUSA), and Douglas is bringing a DVD of 4.9 and 4.10 to screen at the con tomorrow night. Frakkity frak frak!!!!
Re: A question for all you...
by Excuse Me Mr
Jun 12th, 2008
08:48:03 AM
I love all those series you listed Matt. BSG is the exact opposite of Star Trek if you're worried about the two shows being similiar (although DS9 has more in common with BSg than other Treks). BSG is hands down the best sci-fi series and one of the best drama series ever.
EWG: It wasn't a resurrection ship, it was a hub
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
08:48:18 AM
The hub is the central networking unit for all of the resurrection ships. Why they don't have a redundant backup (or at least 50 baseships guarding it) is beyond me.

Here's what I don't understand: what about the Cylon homeworld? Shouldn't there be a resurrection facility there independent of the fleet resurrection facilities? And what are the Cylons actually doing now? It seems like they're as adrift as the colonial fleet. Why? Have they abandoned their homeworld? What is up with them?

"You will lead them all to their end."
by Sans Souci
Jun 12th, 2008
08:59:57 AM
Along with "All this has happened before..." this may be the most telling bit of repeated dialogue. Starbuck, whoever and whatever she is, might be the one who finally stops the cycle from perpetuating. In a show where characters have come back to life and some exist in multiple lives, a "harbinger of death" may in fact be a good thing.

As for "Revelations"...it should do quite well in silencing those who say nothing ever happens on BSG. The listless Lost somehow gets better props for storytelling, but that show's big season finale was about a guy turning a wheel. BSG's mid-season milestone radically alters the show's direction. You're left wondering how they're gonna handle the remaining dozen episodes. Some much is answered, but new questions arise with possibly darker implications.

FYI, the Thirteenth Tribe is not what it seems.
BSG
by Smoke Monster Loves Kate
Jun 12th, 2008
09:00:11 AM
Is not like Star Trek, except sometimes the movies starring The Original Series crew which were badass. Even then, ST's always been more 'uppity', while BSG is 'gritty', has a more military feel to it rathern than a classic naval theme that ST:TNG always played up.

It's compared to Star Trek because it's had the same 'impact' (though not in terms of magnitude cuz ST was prime time) today as Star Trek had back when the original series was airing and especially TNG when they tried to tackly the heady political issues of the day.

A Battlestar is also more like an aircraft carrier than the Enterprise so the whole angle with the pilots brings in a Top Gun feel to it (Star Wars-esque there), which you could not imagine on Star Trek.

HERC, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD !!!!!!!!!!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
09:07:55 AM
Oh, I'm anxious now. HELL YEAH!!!
The ending...
by hellboy1979
Jun 12th, 2008
09:09:56 AM
They get to earth and land on the lost island. Sorry to spoil it for you.
re: those who say nothing ever happens on BSG
by snowpuff
Jun 12th, 2008
09:10:04 AM
Well... I'm excited to see all the awesome revelations tomorrow, but that doesn't mean anything happened the rest of the season. Moore really let his writers dick around this year.
problem with Earth in the past...
by lynxpro
Jun 12th, 2008
09:17:04 AM
I have no problem with the Colonials showing up and laying the foundation for Greco-Roman polytheism, but if Baltar's cult starts monotheism, it isn't going to jive with history. Baltar is acting like a pseudo-Jesus, which isn't the foundation of monotheism. Neither is Judaism. A heretic Egyptian king started monotheism with his cult of Aton, who was represented by a sun disc. However, if Aton is named, then that would work, and would also mesh in the ancient Egyptian motif of the original series. Although it would be interesting to see everyone arrive at Earth to see the wreckage of their own ships with a reveal that they are caught in a time loop.
Snowpuff - Maybe in season three...
by Sans Souci
Jun 12th, 2008
09:25:07 AM
But all the "little stories" in seaon four have laid the groundwork for what happens in "Revelations." The slow build up and burn is often the best. The climax becomes that more satisfying.

BTW, my love for Lucy Lawless grew even more with "Revelations." Just watch her face in the final scene. Her expression perfectly sums up the potential tone of the remaining episodes.
Herc, Ron Moore's Little Bitch
by kenichi tanaka
Jun 12th, 2008
09:51:26 AM
Who the fuck cares ... I have to say that AICN has become just another Bitch for Hollywood's Press Machine. Having just sold my Battlestar Galactica season sets I'm just keeping the classic series in my library as Ron Moore bastardized the series with his piss-poor creation.
Since everything happens again...
by Banditmania
Jun 12th, 2008
09:52:08 AM
they find Earth and get chased by T-Rex.
kenichi tanaka
by tk 421
Jun 12th, 2008
09:55:20 AM
shut the fuck up and go away you little bitch.
I'm a little annoyed...
by MJohnson
Jun 12th, 2008
09:56:48 AM
That we don't get the final cylon this episode...I was sure they were going to leave us with that as the mid-season cliffhanger. Damn them.
before and again
by PensiveWombat
Jun 12th, 2008
10:01:29 AM
This isn't my idea, but the last episode and these comments almost seem to make it inevitable: The humans and the skinjobs settle on an abandoned Earth. The skinjobs (especially the final five, who no longer need to pass for humans) have their artificial "aging" disabled; barring accidental or intentional death, they live for thousands of years. The humans, over the generations, increasingly listen to their centuries of wisdom and eventually revere them as their gods. However, Baltar and the monotheists (both cylon and human) get fed up early on with the regime on earth and leave in 13 ships to start their own colonies. Hence setting up the eventual conflict when the two sides meet again however many millenia in the future.
kenichi tanaka
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:09:23 AM
Yet you keep watching and keep coming back here to tell us about it. Awesome.
This is perhaps the most exciting article I ever read here
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 12th, 2008
10:18:10 AM
AND IT'S JUST AN ARTICLE!! all the talk about the series finale makes me feel all shaky. (the good shaky)
The final Cylon is...
by Sans Souci
Jun 12th, 2008
10:20:14 AM
something to bring you back for the following episode...whenever that may air!

Perhaps Baltar is the jealous god? He's certainly got the personality and now the cult to perpetually feed such a delusion. Sometimes Baltar seems all-important to the story, while at other times he's just a small man caught up in much bigger circumstances.

What really happened to the Thirteenth Tribe could explain it all.
Finale spoilers above?
by sambrook
Jun 12th, 2008
10:23:57 AM
Doesn't the fact that Olmos, Helfer, Douglas and McDonnell talk about the script for the finale give away the fact that Adama, Six, Chief and Roslin survive to at least the last eisode? I'm sure they were going to anyway but it will take any some of the tension for the final 10 episodes anytime one of these is supposedly in danger. Although I guess they could turn up in flashbacks.
Did the Resurrection Hub also have the ability...
by snowpuff
Jun 12th, 2008
10:26:33 AM
...to resurrect the colonists?

Just grabbing at straws here.
Can someone email me the spoilers
by snowpuff
Jun 12th, 2008
10:27:55 AM
I admit it. I can't wait. Must. Know. Answers.
People Who Speculate About/Obsess Over the Final Cylon
by Aquatarkusman
Jun 12th, 2008
10:28:36 AM
Are really sad, sad little people.
Is it even bigger than the Atmo-FTL-Jump?
by zooch
Jun 12th, 2008
10:30:29 AM
Is it even bigger than the Adama mustache?
by snowpuff
Jun 12th, 2008
10:32:12 AM
Is it even bigger than Fat Lee Adama?
by sambrook
Jun 12th, 2008
10:33:28 AM
ghost_matt
by Charlie Murphy
Jun 12th, 2008
10:34:36 AM
BSG is the sci-fi show for people who don't like sci-fi (and people who do like sci-fi-- everybody wins!) it deals with issues you wouldn't expect to find on such a show- religion, politics, the human will to survive... It's not a crew of people just taking a scenic trip around the galaxy, it's humanity's final 40,000 people trying to find a safe place to live. For the list of shows you claim to enjoy, matty, it's curious why this one wouldn't get an automatic pass for you. you seem to have the correct geek qualifications, you just... haven't got to it, I guess. still growing into the role of a geek... Are you a toddler-geek learning to walk? or maybe a fetus-geek, still developing brain function? God, that's an awful analogy, but my question remains the same: "How the fuck have you continued to pass this up for four years?"
Nothing is bigger than Fat Apollo!
by Sans Souci
Jun 12th, 2008
10:39:17 AM
Unless Fat Apollo makes an Atmo-FTL jump while wrestling with the Final Cylon. :-)
I miss the old Dean Martin Celebrity Mindroasts
by SpyGuy
Jun 12th, 2008
10:39:48 AM
Seriously, "Mind-roastingly intense"? Oooookay.

Oh, and we know the final Cylon is Gaeta. That's been obvious since Season One.

Is it even bigger than Apollo frakking Starbuck?
by snowpuff
Jun 12th, 2008
10:40:36 AM
I too was at the Arclight
by geodesigns
Jun 12th, 2008
10:40:47 AM
I was at the Arclight for the screening. I agree- it was the biggest BSG episode so far. And one of the best ones from the entire series. There was a funny moment in the Q&A when Ron D. Moore had us all swear to silence for the next few days. He started by addressing the audience -- “Raise your right hands” We did so. Then say “I”. We all said “I” “State your name. We all said “State your name.” We all got a kick out of that. And what I also liked form his info of upcoming treats is the completion of the podcasts! About time! Great screening- great episode. This one blew all competition away. It deserves an Emmy. BSG is Gods Frakkin awesome!!!!
ghost_matt
by secretcylon
Jun 12th, 2008
10:41:37 AM
Just get the mini-series.
Bigger than Saul Tigh's liver!
by Sans Souci
Jun 12th, 2008
10:56:25 AM
Bigger than Starbuck, Dualla, Athena, and Ellen Tigh having their own spin-off movie "Sex and the Battlestar." After all designer shoes have been destroyed in the Fall of the Colonies, Stabuck wornders, "Do women just want to be saved...from rampaging hordes of killer robots?"

Guest starrng D'Anna as the bi-curious menage a trois seeker, Caprica Six as Ellen Tigh's younger doppleganger, Gaius Baltar as everybody's best gay friend, and Saul Tigh as Mr. Frak.
The raptor that jumped in last weeks Ep
by Zeframillen
Jun 12th, 2008
11:02:11 AM
Has this been talked about? During the battle to destroy the resurrection hub, a lone raptor jumped out of the battle. Could this have any implications?
Seems odd that they'd take special care to show this event and not touch on it later
The Lone Raptor
by sambrook
Jun 12th, 2008
11:11:34 AM
If it's the one I remember then I think it was just show a pilot basically commiting suicide due to the stress of the battle (wasn't he wanred that jumping this far from Galatica was suicide? But he'd rather try that in his desperation). Basically it was showing the tragedy of battle without just blowing another one of them up. Of course I might be wrong and the pilot coud resurface.
Only 11 months to go...
by cutest_of_borg
Jun 12th, 2008
11:22:26 AM
...until Star Trek.
I call bullshit
by Urge to Kill
Jun 12th, 2008
11:22:33 AM
Herc has always been, and will forever be, Joss Whedon's bitch.
Lone Raptor
by MovieWhore
Jun 12th, 2008
11:28:36 AM
No, no , no ... you guys weren't paying attention .. the Lone Raptor was introduced earlier in the episode floating in space .. Adama found Roslin's book inside and the body of Pike .. it was this that allowed them to trace the FTL to where the Resurrection HUB and the Rogue Basestar ended up
Sans Souci
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
11:32:30 AM
Baltar as god is a theory I've had. In a TB last season I mentioned that Baltar might be a version of Prospero from the Tempest.

Not sure if RDM is going in that direction, but it sure looks possible and would be a remarkable development IMHO!

Dark Tower ending?
by MattmanReturns
Jun 12th, 2008
11:33:29 AM
That's what "All this has happened before, and all this will happen again" reminds me of. Plus the Dark Tower ending (beginning?) was also a "punch in the stomach".
Great article, Herc
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
11:40:29 AM
Can'it wait to see it! I would have loved to have seen it in the theater. Just wondering, was there any scene that was particularly more powerful because of the big screen?

Thanks for the updat on the movies too. As I was reading I kept wondering about them, but of course you addressed it at the end.

However - clever guy that Ron Moore is - with his mention that only one movie is likely (as opposed to the reported three), it looks like he might be using your article to assist in the negotiations with the network. ;-)

Found the spoilers... but I'll keep my trap shut
by Heckles
Jun 12th, 2008
11:40:45 AM
Suffice to say, it's a trip. Herc's review is spot on.
MovieWhore
by sambrook
Jun 12th, 2008
11:44:15 AM
You're right, I completely missed that. Well corrected.
Thanks Moviewhore
by Zeframillen
Jun 12th, 2008
11:45:58 AM
Now I remember, much appreciation for clearing that up for me!
You told us last week's episode was the last one
by wintocha67
Jun 12th, 2008
11:52:01 AM
What's going on here?
Herc said "Almost-Last"
by Heckles
Jun 12th, 2008
12:15:04 PM
Have to keep an eye on his slick verbiage.
Never before glimpsed side of Adama...
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
12:16:41 PM
...I sure hope that does Not mean an NYPD Blue sorta butt scene.

But I am worried that it does....

More jaw dropping and sofa gripping than...
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
12:19:20 PM
...the noted really frakkin amazing episodes?! WOW.

Just the Herc-age above had me grippin the chair with my butt cheeks--tomorrow can't come soon enough.

MNG, Hubie, chrth, wanahara7
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
12:26:05 PM
Stand By to Stand By to STAND READY to Talkback this one down to each syllable and vowel.

Start Carbo Loading now, so you will have sustainable energy! (Whole grain pasta, bagels, pancakes----okay: PIZZA!)

NoHubris and chromedome!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
12:26:09 PM
Hail!
chromedome!
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
12:26:12 PM
I find it disturbing that both of our immediate reactions was 'no butt shot!'
Hail chrth and W7!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
12:27:25 PM
I wonder if...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
12:28:11 PM
...some of the other BSG TB regulars will come out for this one.
RE: "Baltar’s Shakespeare quotation"
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
12:29:10 PM
Does anyone remember what quotation this was?
Scifi.com
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
12:30:03 PM
Are they going to be showing the full episode tomorrow every hour, or just the promos?
chrh!
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
12:39:58 PM
It is much less disturbing than if both our reactions had been "YES! Butt shot!"
yes, MNG--I was also wondering about the quote
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
12:41:48 PM
I have no memory of it (but I might not have recognized it as Bardage....)
Dark Tower Ending possible
by Excuse Me Mr
Jun 12th, 2008
12:43:54 PM
It defininitely seems to go in that direction.
chrth! apologies for the typo'd "chrh"
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
12:44:01 PM
It was not an intentional messing with your name. I only do that to Huberto :-)
bigger than Admiral Cain is a lesbian!?
by zooch
Jun 12th, 2008
01:09:20 PM
shakepeare quote
by cpt. tim
Jun 12th, 2008
01:16:24 PM
you can overhear baltar saying something and part of it is a line from hamlet act III. "Undiscovered country from whose bourn no traveler returns" or some such. Also back in season 2 Roslin says "You have your pound of flesh" which is a reference to the merchant of venice.
Ashok0
by secretcylon
Jun 12th, 2008
01:20:49 PM
I think sometimes people forget the atmo jump and New Caprica are part of Season 3. Sometimes I even remember them as part of Season 2.
Ashok0
by secretcylon
Jun 12th, 2008
01:20:50 PM
I think sometimes people forget the atmo jump and New Caprica are part of Season 3. Sometimes I even remember them as part of Season 2.
have no idea
by secretcylon
Jun 12th, 2008
01:21:35 PM
how that double-posted.
Oh and the final cylon
by cpt. tim
Jun 12th, 2008
01:29:44 PM
Is joseph adama. you heard it here first.
Final 5: Tori, Tigh, Tyrol, Samuel T.
by Heckles
Jun 12th, 2008
01:49:56 PM
...and Tom Zarek. Rule of 'T'. Booh-yah.
The arrive on Earth.
by cookylamoo
Jun 12th, 2008
01:50:36 PM
And realize everyone there is a Cylon.
My Final Cylon Prediction....
by Arctus
Jun 12th, 2008
01:52:06 PM
I dont know the finale in any way, shape, or form. However, my feeling on the matter is that Tom Zarek will turn out to be the final Cylon. That in the vein of "All of this has happened before" storyline, the 1st cylon "Skinjob" was made in the likeness of Apollo(the original from the old series). That's right, Oringinal Apollo's likeness became a CYLON.
I saw it and its too fucking good to spoil
by mpfanatic
Jun 12th, 2008
01:53:24 PM
so I wont just gonna say best episode of the series BY FAR i literally screamed HOLY SHIT in the theatre
Final 10 episodes
by cyberelf420
Jun 12th, 2008
01:56:26 PM
SciFi announces that Final 10 episodes will be airing as 5 special 2 hour movies in January 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013. Final cylon is said to be Frank, a television repairman who appeared in episode 3 of season 1 played by a then unknown Travis Van Winkle (Meet the Spartans).
Thanks, CaptTim: Undiscovered Country...
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
02:10:36 PM
...is an interesting quote, indeed. Refers to Death: D'Anna has her Five encounters while Dead, they just indicated that now that Cylons can no longer download, and everyone can die, that it means "there is no difference" (to quote Sharon, speaking to D'Anna) between Human and Cylon. "Death" has a lot of significance with respect to Starbuck's Maestrom entry and return.
Roslin's cancer and the Fifth Cylon
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
02:11:48 PM
According to the Pythia, she doesn't reach Earth, right? So isn't her death an inevitability based on the idea that 'What has happened before will happen again'

At this point, the 5th Cylon is meaningless to me. Yes, he or she may have info for getting to Earth, but in terms of character reaction, we've pretty much seen it already from the Final Four of Five.

...unless the Final Fifth knew it all along

Cyberelf! Bite your frakkin tongue!
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
02:12:09 PM
Don't give the brainless suits at SciFi any ideas--jeez, man, your sarcasm is their idea of brilliance! After all, they still think wrestling is science fiction.....
The Lords of Kobol
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
02:17:42 PM
What I find interesting is that the colonists fled the Lords of Kobol ... but where did the Lords go? Did they all (except for the Cylon God, perhaps) die? Are they on Earth? Etc
Final Scene....
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
02:20:11 PM
sweeping pull back out and out, view of the entire galaxy, pull back pull back....

the galaxy is in a pendant formerly worn by a cat (the lawyer's cat?), but is now on a chain and dangling from Linda Fiorentino's neck.....

Linda Fiorentino..... (sigh)

chrth--seems like Roslin has to die, but the dead reappear
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
02:26:37 PM
the priestess still shows up, Starbuck "died" but was not out of the show. Could be Roslin dies, only to find herself ON Earth, waiting for the rest when they arrive. They may have set us up for that when she shared the death vision with the other woman, on the ferry, seeing all her family and friends again.

It is also possible, but not likely in my judgement, that NatalieSix is actually the dying leader who points them to earth--she pointed them in the direction of the Final Five, said they were in the fleet, knew the way to earth, and offered cooperation in finding them via unboxing D'Anna. If Natalie is the prophesied dying leader, then Roslin could be off the hook.

I do recall the phrase "dying leader" popping up all the time throughout the series--dying does not necessarily mean dead: did they quote a Pythia verse that specifically said the leader dies and does not make it to earth, does anyone recall?

Trik_ster
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
02:27:28 PM
Trik_ster....
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
02:33:12 PM
I concur: the What or the True Nature of the Fifth is, in my view, much more significant than the Who.

I suspect the Who part may be that the Fifth has been appearing freely as many different (InHeads, NotLeoben, others) or "occupying/inspiring" others as needed. As the Watchtower music may have been "projected" into the minds of the Four, almost anything could be projected. Six made a point of explaining to Baltar that Cylons project the "reality" that suits them individually, and they showed them standing in a corridor, but she was out in the forest... Projection has definitely been established within the rules of the show.

I think it is also worth remember a scripture quote from the Jupiter episode (that was repeated at least TWICE within that episode): The Five Serve The One....

I still think the final Cylon is either...
by Squashua
Jun 12th, 2008
02:36:58 PM
1) Gaeta

or

2) Gaius

or

3) A metaphor for the inevitable self-sufficiency of the Centurion Cylons.

Love
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
02:38:10 PM
RDM said he locked in on the God Is Love concept

And the priestess spent a fair amount of time getting Roslin to open herself to Love last week.

InHead Six kept telling Baltar about God's Love, and now Baltar is telling everyone else (even Centurions! :-) Much of the Cylon motivation seems to be around feeling Love.

I guess Love will be the theme of the whole show. Gotta keep that in mind as we go forward....

Roslin's dying
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
02:38:37 PM
The Dying Leader (Battlestar Wiki) Elosha: "And the lords anointed a leader to guide the Caravan of the Heavens to their new homeland." (The Hand of God) Elosha: She also wrote that the new leader suffered a wasting disease and would not live to enter the new land. (The Hand of God) Roslin: The scriptures tell us a dying leader lead humanity to the promised land. (Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I)
rip bill dial
by bacci40
Jun 12th, 2008
02:44:35 PM
writer of the penultimate wkrp epi...the thanksgiving epi...and abe vigoda still lives
Never before glimpsed side of Adama
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
02:53:51 PM
Chromedome, remember your "Pants for Baltar!" battle cry?!

Just in case, be prepared to take action once again!

Perceived superiority of Seasons 1 & 2
by zer0cool2k2
Jun 12th, 2008
02:59:53 PM
I think a big part of the praise heaped on Season 1, is because it came as such a suprise. The original mini was okay, but "33" was one of the best season/series premieres ever. plus, it was a niche product with a cult following. Season two built on the great cliffhanger of the first season, and pushed the mythology of the show further. By late season 2, the show was being more recognized by the mainstream, getting critical acclaim, and some awards recognition.

Of course, the masses love to build something up, just to tear it down once it becomes popular, hence all the "...sucks" posts in the BSG threads. It the quality suffered at all in my mind, it was probably related to the writer's strike throwing things slightly out-of-whack, coupled with my own by-that-time, ridiculous expectations. Ad to that, the long painful gaps SciFi forces us to suffer through, and people get disgruntled. I for one still find it the best thing currently on TV, and One of the best things Ever aired.

MNG! Chromedomeus! W7! Chrth!
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
03:01:29 PM
Backatcha, MNG and Chromedome!

Can you boys believe it's the "mid-season" break already?

chrth: THANKS--very specific and clear :-)
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
03:07:13 PM
unlike my memory....
2nd season BSG
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
03:08:00 PM
There were a bunch of shitty episodes towards the end of the season (Billy dying ep, "Black Market"). Thank the Gods In-Head Baltar arrived to save the day.
It would be interesting if they reach Earth and find
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
03:09:54 PM
that it's a lot like Caprica. Then they realize they are the true descendants of Earth.
Earth as the Ultimate Resurrection Ship...
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
03:11:13 PM
...(as alluded to by Chromedome's comment about Roslin waiting for everyone on Earth after she dies) would be the ultimate expression of the "Love" theme.

Good one, Chromie.

ResurrectionHUBris!
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
03:13:38 PM
Yup, I remember Pants for Baltar! and it worked!! I also remember MNG's promise to send me an Eight: checkin every day since--no 5 foot 6 in tall Crate of Cuteness has been delivered. I have withdrawn my "Keel Haul Helo!" battlecry, but have not yet abandoned my Hybrid Theory. Anyone happen to notice that, even though far away, the Hybrid knew when NatalieSix was "back in the stream that feeds the ocean that feeds the stream" (this has all happened before and will happen again), and also knew as soon as D'Anna was back online? Lotsa insider knowledge, the Hybrids have....
If Earth is the Ultimate Resurrection Ship...
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
03:14:08 PM
...then the destruction of the Resurrection Hub would have much deeper meaning.
If they do some Earth is the Cylon Homeworld
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
03:15:04 PM
garbage, I'll be pretty dissapointed.
Really?
by NudeandAroused
Jun 12th, 2008
03:17:37 PM
It's that good? Those are some really eps that you list.
I kind of see the Head Six as a Count Iblis
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
03:20:27 PM
She says she's an angel of God, but has she really helped out Baltar or the fleet in any way?
Earth as the Cylon Homeworld
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
03:21:59 PM
Actually makes sense. The colonists left Kobol because of some inter-Lord fighting (said fighting happening because one of the Lords wanted dominance over the others). Earth colonists went a different way entirely, because they were led by the one "true Lord" of Kobol, who I'll call the Dirklon for ease of typing ;) . After the first Cylon War, the Cylons stumbled upon Earth, where they were embraced by Dirklon, who became the Cylon God to them.

Extending it further: the Final Five Cylons were created on Earth/Cylon homeworld, but the others weren't, thus the Five know the way to Earth AND serve the one (i.e. Dirklon). The Four simply don't know that the Cylon Homeworld is Earth, but the Final Fifth is the one who DOES know it.

However, ResurrectionHUBris....
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
03:22:14 PM
...on the other hand, will stand strong forever!
"Lotsa insider knowledge, the Hybrids have...."
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
03:26:13 PM
Well, yeah, I imagine they're networked in to everything for obvious reasons. D'Anna's 'resurrection' had to occur via a computing process, so the hybrid would've registered it happening. Natalie's death occured before the Hub went blammo, so the return of her mindpatterns to the resurrecting buffer would've been noted as well ("You've Got Cylon!")
Maybe the Hybrids creator is on Earth
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
03:26:56 PM
He sent out the hybrids into the Cylons to try and out the final five?
I do have a question about the Hybrid
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
03:30:29 PM
Why did the Hybrid want to help destroy the resurrection hub? I find that odd. Is it simply that her conversation with Starbuck triggered an embedded signal to work with the 'this has all happened before' meme and therefore the resurrection hub destruction is necessary?
I hate BSG...
by mrfan
Jun 12th, 2008
03:36:06 PM
fans that saw this already. Jealous also. Lucky bastards. :)
Earth as the Cylon Home World...
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
03:36:25 PM
...would probably have an entirely different type of Cylon and Cylon society IMHO, one where Cylons, the human descendants, the 13th tribe(Cylon or human), and the Lords of Kobol all embrace the "Love" theme RDM mentioned.

Taken to the extreme, it would also be a world where those who not embrace love are EXILED until they change their wicked ways.

"has she really helped out Baltar"
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
03:37:29 PM
Oh, Gods yes. Her ministrations during the Cylon torture helped him to not only escape the torture, but to bag a menage with 3. That right there more than makes up for anything negative or neutral she's done.
They arrive on Earth and...
by mrfan
Jun 12th, 2008
03:38:19 PM
someone forgot to unplug the coffee maker on Caprica. Have to head back. Don't want a fire to start.
chrth
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
03:59:48 PM
Yup, i was wondering the same thing: Hybrid WAILED in Anguish against abandoning the virus-infected basetar and occupants--but seemed to run off after the resurrection hub without hesitation: I say it is because the Hybrids are linked in to the Larger Plan for both Human and Cylon.

As for knowing about NatalieSix, I am not sure I agree that, since it was before the hub went all splodey, it was just normal information. They had explained that the Hub coordinated all the Resurrection Ships, and it seemed clear from earlier eps that the local "ship" had been destroyed, and they were, in that area, too far from any other ship to download. Plus, it seemed like NatalieSix's death was taking her Somewhere Else. So, it may just be that the Hybrid noticed that Natalie was Just Gone.

However, with the Hub's coordinates closely guarded, and moving all the time, and so MANY jumps away, for the Hybrid to have Instant knowledge of D'Anna's status was interesting, I thought.

There is more to the Hybrids than meets the eye, so say I....

The "Dylons"
by Samuel Vimes
Jun 12th, 2008
04:01:25 PM
Can't wait to see just how the Galactica 4 will be outed to the rest of the rag-tag fleet--- and just where their allegiances will lie, with the Humans or their Cylon brethren? (But I'm hoping to see Tory sidling up to D'eanna for that BSG update of the Xena/Gabrielle special "relationship"--- only this time Lucy's the blonde...)
Bad feeling about final Cylon
by Heckles
Jun 12th, 2008
04:04:26 PM
I really hope the final Cylon is not an actor from the new 'Caprica' spin-off. That would be so cheap. Like introducing Jack Tripper's fiancee at the end of 'Three's Company' just before 'Three's A Crowd' started.
Hey, Samuel Vimes....
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
04:10:48 PM
Is Earth gonna turn out to be Discworld?
chrth, interesting points
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
04:16:25 PM
IMHO it is worth putting a tag on your theory about Natalie dying before the hub went ka-plooie for further consideration, but TPTB made such a big fuss over her death, having her see a world with trees and sky and so forth. It does "appear" that she's a goner.

But hey, I'm certain that alot of TBers would not have thought about it had you not mentioned it.

Oh no I think Natalie is Dead
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
04:50:20 PM
I was just saying that the Hybrid may have been aware of her death because it happened before Hub kablooie. I don't think there was time for her to get a new body before the kablosion.
James Callus interview on Onion AV Club
by CarmillaVonDoom
Jun 12th, 2008
04:51:30 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3krojn Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet (I can't read the talkback until tomorrow) but he says a LOT of interesting stuff. Seems he isn't really feeling some of what the writers are doing to his character.
But the In Head Six also screwed over Baltar
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
05:17:11 PM
She wouldn't help Baltar unless he admitted that she was there to help him.
The Onion AV Club interview with Callis is great!
by NoPIX
Jun 12th, 2008
05:43:06 PM
Very enlightening. Thanks CarmillaVonDoom. Baltar can't be a TRUE believer. He just can't. He needs more complexity these days. I knew it!!
Baltar is so messed up now
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
06:00:50 PM
Callis has been playing the same beats for a few years now. I understand why he's so frustrated. Other characters on the show grow and change, but Baltar is still a jerk.
Batman_Cape: Doesn't matter
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
06:18:48 PM
3+6-Pain = Happy Baltar.
I don't like Baltar now
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
06:19:24 PM
He's no longer snivelling or conniving. He's no fun.
I see a different Baltar...
by Heckles
Jun 12th, 2008
06:23:23 PM
Baltar doesn't believe what he's selling, at least he didn't at first. He was mocking his followers. Seems like he just wants that 'tang. All of his motives are based on self-preservation. Everything he's ever done. Taking Helo's spot off of Caprica, fixing the Cylon detector because he thought he was one, letting the Cylons use him on new Caprica, hiding with his cult...
I still like Baltar.
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
06:23:51 PM
But he was funnier in Season 1 with Head Six hanging all over him.
TV Guide: No new BSG until 2009...
by Heckles
Jun 12th, 2008
06:28:09 PM
...at the earliest. Best case scenario, we are looking at January. Didn't we hear this last time? Be back at the start of the year, then it was pushed back. Son of a bitch. An entire football season is going to pass before we get new BSG. Bogus. Love the show, but these breaks are making tough to give a shit anymore.
I will remain spoiler free!
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
06:33:35 PM
...must ... resist ... google ...
Stupid question about the live streams
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
06:59:34 PM
Can you pause while watching (like if someone actually bothers me with 'work')?
W7: Don't push it
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
07:00:17 PM
I don't want the thread to disappear
...although that begs the question
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
07:00:52 PM
Are we allowed to start discussing the ep after the live stream tomorrow morning?
*sigh* all my hard work is about to disappear
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
07:02:19 PM
Unless ... to the Copy/Paste button!
I just wished Baltar didn't believe his own hype
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
08:40:01 PM
"Mid-Season Finale"
by Sir Loin
Jun 12th, 2008
08:49:42 PM
WTF is a "Mid-Season Finale"? There's your problem right there. There SHOULDN'T BE A MID-SEASON FINALE but hey, the pinheads at Sci-Fi Channel seem to think we need 'em. Seriously, everyone needs to boycott this POS "network" until they get new board members who actually care to smell what they're shoveling. If they had any serious competition, they wouldn't be pulling this crap. They'll finance such classics as MANSQUITO but drag a respected series out and split its seasons (ABC is guilty of this, too) making fans wait 8-12 months between season halves. Pure awesomeness. I wanna be a network exec when I'm all growed up.
chrth, apologies...
by NoHubris
Jun 12th, 2008
09:03:31 PM
...for misreading your Natalie post. Still, good point about the Hybrid's awareness.
I wanna be a network exec too!
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
09:09:37 PM
As I've mentioned many, many times before ... I'm going to greenlight a popular genre show that takes place in a Rib Joint, and cancel it every season regardless of ratings. Then after the Ribs come in from the fans, I'll bring it back ...

and chow down on some sweet tasty ribs

Baltar is a chick and dude magnet
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
09:17:29 PM
He gets everyone.
TomBodet
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
09:33:14 PM
Wake up you crazy bastard!
Tom Bodet needs some Mt. Dew
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
09:36:38 PM
Anybody else check out those Propaganda Posters...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
09:40:39 PM
...that Herc linked to above? They're kind of cool in a retro way.
What IS up with Bucky's Viper??
by Billyeveryteen
Jun 12th, 2008
09:41:35 PM
Is it a Cylon freshie? Or lightship upgrade?
MNG: totally trying NOT to buy those posters
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
09:44:57 PM
but, dammit, Those Vipers Won't Fix Themselves!!

if they had a Sharon/Boomer/Athena/Eight version of Know Your Cylons, I would paper the walls with em!

Tom Bodet needs this.....
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
09:49:14 PM
http://tinyurl.com/67q2ya

ri ght now!

ghost matt
by Maniaq
Jun 12th, 2008
09:58:29 PM
hate to disagree (ok maybe not) but since the end of season 2 I've found BSG to be EXACTLY like Star Trek.

When I used to watch Trek, I knew it was gonna suck, but I would hope against hope that maybe just maybe it would be good - or at least ok...

and it sucked

and so far season 3 and 4 have had exactly ONE good episode each.

and here's this review telling me "it's not gonna suck" and I'll watch - hoping against hope...

I know how it ends!!!
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:00:38 PM
I ruined myself.
chromedome
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:05:50 PM
Ha! Somehow, I don't doubt it. They would compliment the No. 8 that's been on backorder since gods know when...
"I ruined myself."
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:10:01 PM
Do you mean you soiled yourself?!
No, I did that earlier
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:10:51 PM
"No, I did that earlier"
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:12:12 PM
Was this after you realized you were banned as gotham_night?
Are you always this boring?
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:13:07 PM
HA!
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:13:57 PM
Thanks for confirming.
It is AGAINST the The Rules, Batman....
by chromedome
Jun 12th, 2008
10:14:16 PM
to wipe yourself with the cape.

I'm just sayin, is all....

Gauis needs a job.
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:15:09 PM
He's on here 24 hours a day.
Batman_Cape = gotham_night
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:19:36 PM
24 hours a day? Really? Care to back that up with any evidence?

Because last I saw, you were the one actually looking for a job, remember? Don't throw your insecurities on me because you'd rather post one-liners on AICN all day than be a productive member of society.

Don't mean to sound cruel but, seriously, get with the program.

Gauis why do you care?
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:22:32 PM
Does it give you some pride to your fat ass that you play mod in every thread?
One last spoiler: the name of the Cylon Resurrection Hub...
by BurnHollywood
Jun 12th, 2008
10:23:03 PM
The CSS Contrivance. May she rest in pieces.
Plus you follow people around in every thread and
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:23:21 PM
never comment on the actual topic.
Please cease and desist, gentlemen
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
10:24:41 PM
And shame on you, MNG. I've told you multiple times now just to ignore these sorts of argument.
Gay ass is just bored
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:26:10 PM
He thinks he's some big AICN talkback contributer.
Batman_Cape
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:30:45 PM
Ah, see? That's where you're wrong. I don't care.

Quote: "follow people around in every thread"

Bullshit. Look at my screenname...I'm in a BSG thread. Where else would I be?!

Quote: "never comment on the actual topic"

Bullshit again. You should READING some of my posts in the various threads on this site. I know you have the time for it.

Oh dear...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:34:46 PM
chrth - True dat. Word.

Batman_Cape - sorry to wind you up, fella. I didn't realize it was so easy.

Well, this TB is going on blackout until I see the mid-season finale episode. I hope it's every bit as good as Herc claims. Until then, gentlemen. So Say We All.

Go run to Harry Gauis
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:35:05 PM
Really, you're trying to look like the victim and it gets old. Go ahead and get me banned again. I really don't care to read your shit every day anyway.
Cylons’ Bob Dylan tune?
by fiester
Jun 12th, 2008
10:37:12 PM
Wha?
Batman_Cape
by kingben
Jun 12th, 2008
10:37:32 PM
you are incredibly annoying and dont bust Gaius's balls. its not nice. go fuck yourself
Hey Batman...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jun 12th, 2008
10:38:42 PM
I didn't get you banned. I don't even know what you did to get banned. Lost Jarv pointed it out in the INDY script thread.

It's pretty tough to get banned on AICN. So, whatever you did, that's your problem - not mine.

Do carry on.

Gay ass brought it up. I don't yell at him when
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:39:11 PM
goes off on other people. He's an asshole.
fiester: All Along the Watchtower
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
10:43:47 PM
While the Hendrix version is better known, it's a Bob Dylan song.
Batman_Cape
by kingben
Jun 12th, 2008
10:43:55 PM
Actually he's just stating a fact. God dont be a baby.
Gaius is the God of Talkbackers
by Batman_Cape
Jun 12th, 2008
10:45:32 PM
everyone should follow his stellar postings every day. Harry should rename this place Aint it Cool to Read Gauis' posts
This just in: Herc truly is Ronald Moore's bitch!
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
10:49:39 PM
Go to the Office Spinoff thread. They're discussig spinoffs, and what does Herc first say was a great one? Angel? NO. DS9.

Poor, poor Joss

chrth
by fiester
Jun 12th, 2008
10:52:26 PM
I missed that. What was the context?
fiester: End of season 3
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
10:54:57 PM
It was the song the Final Four heard/sung along to when they got activated.
Really?
by fiester
Jun 12th, 2008
10:56:41 PM
I missed that episode. I thought they heard music but I didn't know they heard "All Along The Watchtower." That is odd. Did they recognize the song?
I don't think so
by chrth
Jun 12th, 2008
11:01:17 PM
Or at least, no one said "Wow, I can't believe we're hearing last year's number one hit as a Cylon triggering device"

It opened up a can of worms because, you know, it's a 'modern' (relatively speaking) Earth song. But TPTB said that it's not a clue about the time relationship to Earth.

Cool. Thanks.
by fiester
Jun 12th, 2008
11:05:35 PM
That should have had one-legged Gaeta singing something odd then. The weird intrusions of well-known artists are intriguing. I knew of the Shakespeare quote and it really threw me when I heard it. Adama is also always reading those mystery stories to Rosalind--I'm not familiar with them but I wonder if they are Raymond Chandler or something like that.
Classy! Why are you posting malware links?
by snowpuff
Jun 13th, 2008
02:31:55 AM
Took me an hour to clean my computer with Ad-Aware. Thanks.
Good morning. good morning, good morning
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
05:37:31 AM
Nothing to say but it's ok
God, I So Don't Care Anymore
by LaserPants
Jun 13th, 2008
06:01:33 AM
Just WRAP IT UP! Just end the fuckin' story. Get to the end. Get to Earth, break out the 1980s fashions and flying motorcycles and be done with it. Btw, the last Cylon is Muffit 2 the Robot Dog from the original (and funnier / campier / stupider) series.

Btw, are there ANY characters on this show who demonstrate any kind of humor at all? Why is EVERY single character a brooding sourpuss? I like BSG, but it really feels like the writers aren't quite sure how to write characters who demonstrate recognizable human attributes; like using humor to deal with terrifying situations rather than brooding endlessly and screaming "frak" at each other, which, I have on good authority, is how spacemen say "fuck." Duh.
Woah!! Now that some praise, Herc
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jun 13th, 2008
06:14:00 AM
Im officailly ten times more psyched than before!!
37 minutes until the first stream!
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
07:23:33 AM
97 minutes until the talkback EXPLODES
You sure it is a full episode?
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
07:32:24 AM
Site still states only "10 minute" sneak peek. We will find out in a few minutes, I guess.
scifi.com says 'Watch the entire midseason finale'
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
07:33:39 AM
So I'm guessing it's the full episode
What a Come-back by the Celtics Last Night!
by NoHubris
Jun 13th, 2008
07:47:02 AM
If humanity can recover from the destruction of the colonies like the Celtics came back against the Lakers after being down 24 points, then the future of the human race in the BSG universe will be bright.
Come on, it's the NBA
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
07:49:31 AM
Granted, Road Playoff Comeback is rarer, but I've seen more 20+ comebacks than I can count (and I know exponential notation).
Thanks chrth
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
07:50:35 AM
I was on the wrong page, I guess. What I was seeing was not what I am seeing now. That, or the coffee is kicking in.
How geeky am I?
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
07:51:26 AM
I'm hanging out on AICN waiting to watch a BSG episode streamed online while listening to the Penny-Arcade/PVP Podcast where they're playing 4th Edition D&D.

MY GEEK FU IS STRONG!

Crap. "No pause"
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
07:53:25 AM
Sigh. Better hit the head and get a soda now.
Ack, wrong media player version
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
07:59:25 AM
C'mon, c'mon, download!
Well, the commercial is working ...
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:01:14 AM
Maybe that means I'll be ok
Can I do it?
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:01:53 AM
Watch the ep, live comment, and not get fired? Let's find out!
Starbuck with some happy advice for
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:05:10 AM
Father's Day weekend!
There's Something About Dualla
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:07:38 AM
Gaeta is a pizza boy!
Tyrol to Anders: Think we're frakked?
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:08:31 AM
Anders: Oh Gods yes
I figured out what happened!
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:11:32 AM
When Baltar had sex with Tory, all of his conniving passed to her. Damn you Tory. Damn you.
Presented by
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:12:51 AM
The Crappening
Oh cut the attitude Tory
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:16:06 AM
You didn't even know until you got to the Nebula
Ok, that was FUCKING AWESOME
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:23:16 AM
Emmys for Tigh and Adama!

by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:23:53 AM
Good stuff.
Admiral takes a page from Tigh's notebook
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:25:13 AM
mmmm....drool
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:26:04 AM
Another special Father's Day moment
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:26:17 AM
The son dealing with the alchy father who can't take care of himself
Love that Tyrol smirk!
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:28:26 AM
Starbuck has forgotten how to use a phone apparently
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:33:33 AM
Great music during that scene
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:34:45 AM
But, seriously, Kara, pick up a damn phone next time
LALALALALALALALALALA
by Pennsy
Jun 13th, 2008
08:34:50 AM
Not watching, not staying in this TB for anymore than 30 seconds, cuz I don't wanna be spoiled. ;) Hope it's as good as Herc says it is.

See ya after the finale tonight.

So chrth and I are the only ones...
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:35:03 AM
"working" huh?
A Higher Power? Can only mean one thing ...
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:36:33 AM
DIRKLON!
"But it doesn't have to happen again"
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:39:46 AM
Oh, Lee, you are such a wordsmith! But how dare you tangle with fate?
Did I hear correctly?
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:42:20 AM
SPOILER********

The last cylon is NOT with the fleet?

matalo: that's what it sounded like
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:45:25 AM
Everyone is too damn happy
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:46:10 AM
Waiting for other shoe to drop in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... (damn the music is great though)
WILL SOMEONE TELL US WHAT HAPPENED?
by hubris123
Jun 13th, 2008
08:46:26 AM
WHY THE MYSTERY?
It's a BSG-Heroes crossover!
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:49:31 AM
They didn't stop Peter!
WOW, so um ... huh ... well now
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:50:40 AM
Huh, let's see ... where to start ...
Manhattan?
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:50:41 AM
Was it?
matalo: Not obviously so
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:51:33 AM
I didn't recognize any landmarks, EXCEPT, I think they were standing in the Temple of Aurora
I was waiting for the panning shot .....
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:52:15 AM
of the Statue of Liberty.
Well...
by fishpillow
Jun 13th, 2008
08:52:20 AM
Like we didn't see that coming. Shame we have to wait 9 months to a year to see how it all shakes out.
beware spoilers
by Hercules
Jun 13th, 2008
08:52:53 AM
the first scifi.com feed is completed. grab your gun and bring in the cat.
did you notice...
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:53:12 AM
The crosses?

By the way, much apologies for those who wish to remain unspoiled. Not going to happen in this talkback.

I don't have....
by fishpillow
Jun 13th, 2008
08:54:22 AM
... a cat
One...."final" comment
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
08:54:31 AM
Filler episode to the max! Come on!

;)

Well...
by KnowItAllFuckHead
Jun 13th, 2008
08:55:48 AM
That was depressing.
Impressions
by fishpillow
Jun 13th, 2008
08:56:07 AM
Fine performances by all. The scene where they get to Earth was touching and I almost welled up, but like chrth I kept thinking, well when does the rug get pulled? Didn't take long....
Ok, first off
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:56:28 AM
Major props to Tigh and Tyrol this episode, and it was great to see Baltar in action with D'Anna.

And the music was phenomenal.

As for the content ... well ... let's put those in different posts

DAMN you ALL to HELL!!!!
by Rufus_T_Firefly
Jun 13th, 2008
08:57:01 AM
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to Hell!
Did chrth get fired?
by fishpillow
Jun 13th, 2008
08:57:38 AM
That is the true cliffhanger...
fishpillow: nah
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
08:58:24 AM
I was able to work during the commercials

by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
09:00:09 AM
I am definitely watching this again after lunch.

However, I am beginning to wonder a few things. 1) If I did hear correctly, the final cylon is not with the fleet. If this is the case, it is on Earth. Or is it?

More importantly, what are they going to do for the other episodes? Other than make a new home and find the final Cylon.

I am rambling.

Let's look at this from several ways. First, going forward
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
09:02:13 AM
There aren't many episodes left, so there's really not much left to do. I'm wondering if the main "argument" for the remainder of the show will be whether to look for the remnants of the 13th tribe? This might have to do with Roslin dying before reaching the Promised Land.

I'm honestly not sure what they're going to do moving forward. I'm stunned they found Earth so soon this season.

chrth is my hero
by fishpillow
Jun 13th, 2008
09:03:21 AM
Watching BSG at work! The man!
Wow
by QuickAiden
Jun 13th, 2008
09:04:03 AM
Doesn't seem like a lot of people watched it? Music was as good as 3rd season finale's. Not sure what to talk about the ending though. Is Ron Moore showing us his atheism?
Ignoring the Who, let's talk the Why
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
09:04:17 AM
Why were they led to Earth if it had been destroyed? *Something* programmed the Cylons and Viper and the Pythia to point the way to Earth. I'm going to work on a theory, give me ten minutes.
New Caprica 2!
by KnowItAllFuckHead
Jun 13th, 2008
09:06:56 AM
HUH?
by hubris123
Jun 13th, 2008
09:07:02 AM
IS STARBUCK DEAD?
sp what are they going to do for 10 more episodes?
by jccalhoun
Jun 13th, 2008
09:08:17 AM
There are so many holes in this storyline it is hard to sit back and enjoy it.

They can't rebuild the resurrection hub? Starbuck can't use a phone?

I really wonder what they are going to do with the other 10 episodes though? I've said it before but there is a lot of stuff in this season that should have been left on the cutting room floor. If this would have been episode 8 it would be much tighter and fulfulling. I'm afraid now that the next 10 episodes are also going to be full of digressions and slowly wandering plots.

When this season is finally done I hope someone does a fan edit and takes the 20 hours and cuts it down to something like 10-12.

If Dualla hooks up with Gaeta, it will be lame.

so regarding the final cylon. Diana said it wasn't in the fleet. So does that mean that a)it isn't someone we know? b)it is someone who is dead? or c)it was someone already on the basestar (such as the President or Baltar? Both of whom were in the last supper pick and so are supposed to be ruled out). My bet is someone who is "dead."
Obviously
by batjac
Jun 13th, 2008
09:15:45 AM
Sylar is the final Cylon. Or maybe Locke. Or Jack Bauer. Or Rainbow Brite. or Smurfette. Seriously---Galactica has run out of steam---very sad.
Well, I don't have much yet, but here goes
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
09:17:57 AM
Something designed the path to Earth. The Pythia points out the markers, and the Temple - Nebula - Viper sequence was obviously planned by someone. One of the questions I've repeatedly asked is 'How did the Pythia know?' Granted, the answer could be mysticism, but let's set that aside because there's not way to theorize down that path.

But let's see how Earth looks now: Pretty bad. And it may have been pretty bad for awhile. So how does this sound:

The Pythia and all the markers were created by someone(s) fleeing Earth before or during or maybe even after the devastation. They wanted the colonists to find their way to Earth because ... because why?

All this has happened before and will happen again ... the Cylons were originally created on Earth, maybe, and uh ... damn. I'm not seeing it. I think I'm going to need more than 10 minutes.

hubris123: no
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
09:18:40 AM
She just got more exercise than she honestly needed this episode
Final Cylon not in Fleet
by jackbauer24CTU
Jun 13th, 2008
09:20:04 AM
perhaps the final cylon is on Caprica. Remember in the mini-series the scene with 6 turning and facing the camera and saying 'about time you showed up.' Could be the final cylon knows a way to inhibit ther other cylons from knowing his/her identity or maybe 6 is programmed or manipulated by the final cylon. Perhaps the final cylon is President Adar? Supposedly everything is supposed to tie back to the beginning once the final cylon is revealed.
jccalhoun
by matalo
Jun 13th, 2008
09:21:34 AM
Right there with you. I was picking up the Gaeta / Duella vibe myself.

You sure this isn't Young and the Restless? There certainly seems to be a lot of "swapping" going on.

OK, for the record -- what did we really see on Earth.
by capnfancypants
Jun 13th, 2008
09:22:13 AM
Herc, Chrth et al -- What is your interpretation of what we saw? I saw disillusionment, surprise... maybe dejection. I saw a radiological meter seeming to indicate that the ground was partially radioactive (possibly indicating some sort of nuclear holocaust)... and then I saw structures... I think. To be honest, it was hard to describe what those structures were or whether they were ruins or... something. But, since we're already discussing element of the epi-- Herc, you no doubt saw a better version with better resolution than we did online -- what did you see on Earth?
Or the Final Cylon could be on New Caprica
by chrth
Jun 13th, 2008
09:22:47 AM
Remember, not everyone evacuated. Hey, that could be a plot device: the surviving Cavils (and his aligned Cylons) and Boomer go back to New Caprica (why? how should I know?) and find the Final Fifth, who knows the way ... to Eden.
What has happened before...
by QuickA