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Aaron Eckhart Discusses The Future Of Harvey Dent! Do Not Read If You Haven't Seen THE DARK KNIGHT!

Well... by Filmcaptain	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:51:20 PM
That's that.
leave this the end nolan by lbayniner	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:52:26 PM
it was perfect
There's no way he can top DARK KNIGHT. by MaxTheSilent	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:55:10 PM
I'd love Nolan to do the ultimate act of artistic integrity and admit that and step away from the series.
Good by Thunderbolt Ross	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:55:18 PM
I'm glad he's dead, and I'd be fine without another film in this iteration of the character. I think it would probably have been dependent on the Joker, and there aint gonna be any more Joker. Just drop it; better to let it go than contrive a sequel when there isn't one to be made.
Man...does that ever suck! by Jobacca	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:57:30 PM
Seriously....its a huge problem with the movie. Harvey Dent BARELY turns into Two-Face and then when he does they kill him off by having him...fall down? LAME! It makes no sense to finally give a charatcer his due after all these years and then throw him away. Would it really have ruined the movie if they re-wrote the ending and had him wind up in Arkham? Or at the very least,given him a death worthy of one of Batmans deadliest villians. Two-Face fall down and go die!
we don't need a third batman by GravitysRainbow	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:58:52 PM
I don't think it could be topped.
There was a coffin? I thought it was just people standing there by TallBoy66	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:59:16 PM
Don't remember seeing a coffin on screen when Gordon does his mini-speech at the end. And pictures of Harvey. That's a shame if Two-Face is dead and gone because I thought they could have done so much with Two-Face - they never got into the split personality that much. Hell, there's Part 3 right there, Harvey vs. Two-Face's personality.
Dark Knight was very, very good... by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 3rd, 2008 08:59:54 PM
but can definatly be improved upon and was no way near as great as everyone makes it out to be. It is not better than Batman Begins at all. I have seen it 4 times now and each time I really enjoy it, but each time I notice little flaws and realize that it is not as great as it has been made out to be and is in fact slightly overrated. The difference between TDK and BB is I love BB a bit moe each time I see it and get annoyed a but more each time I see TDK.
RE:AND by Phategod2	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:02:41 PM
wow I'm amazed at the astounding arguments and eloquence of this conservative. I'd love to see or hear a interview Nolan post TDK. I'd love to know how will he turn down the Money you know the WB will throw at him as well as oppertunity to outdo his self.
OH, and I say recast the Joker if he is detrimental to the story by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:03:52 PM
Heath was very good in the role, but was far from irreplacable. Many peole can play this role just as good as Heath.
They will offer Nolan ridiculous amounts by Fineus Fog	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:04:55 PM
of cash to make another film. I think he should just walk away for a few years and make another great film like The Prestige and if - and only if he wants to, make another Batman - but how do you top the Dark Knight????
Yeah, just like... by loodabagel	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:07:09 PM
Sam Raimi publicly vowed to never put Venom into a Spider-Man movie. Anything can happen, and until I see a preview for Batman 7, I'll remain skeptical. I still think the next movie will be a gang war between Two-Face, Scarecrow, The Penguin and a cult of Batman worshipping mutants.
They SHOULD recast the Joker by EjkoUSC	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:10:29 PM
Obviously Jokers survival indicates he was intended to return. Heath's death was unfortunate but if Nolan returns he should stick to his guns and continue with the Joker as planned. The Joker transcends Ledger. I think the only actor critic-proof enough to take over the role is Johnny Depp. All this Riddler Johnny Depp talk is a little misguided. Depp should be the Joker. Several actors could take the part but of them only Depp has the popular and critical sort of leverage neccesarry. His casting would probably be the only one they could make without pissing off the critics and fans. With Depp people would give him the benefit of the doubt. not to mention if the Joker is in prison for much of the movie he would presumably be out of makeup so continuity story wise it KIND OF makes it easier to get away with introducing a new face as the Joker. Think about it. You trying to tell me Depp couldnt do what Ledger did?
it's nolan's call by illegaltouching	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:12:35 PM
bale has said he won't be back without nolan. if WB gets greedy, we may have a batman forever redux.
~~~HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT! HUNT THE DARK KNIGHT!~~~ by The Marquis de Side 3	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:13:22 PM
or if Chris Nolan doesn't want it, give it to: David Fincher? Michael Mann? Matthew Vaughn? BRETT RATNER!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Maybe someone could look it up by chewyou812	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:15:04 PM
I could've sworn that Eckhart said in an interview with Men's Journal earlier this year that he was signed for another installment.
Oh, come off it beaks. by TheGreenStyle	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:15:41 PM
"incredibly apparent he's dead, because we didn't follow his corpse yadda yadda yadda..." Well, unlike you, some of us remember this is CHRIS NOLAN we're talking about, a guy who loves to fool audiences in this way. Oh yeah, it's obvious that Dent died at the end, the way it was obvious Ra's died half way through Begins and how it's self-apparent that Gordon dies half way through Dark Knight. Oh, yeah, they definitely were obviously dead, you ass. And that's just Nolan's BATMAN movies, which are his more straightforward ones. Not even getting into his other stuff. I mean, think Prestige, and you gotta be fucking kidding me coming off with that attitude. But I get it. You get this interview that confirms his deadness, and you get your big "I told you so, I'm smarter than a percentage of the fan base" moments. so congratu-fucking-lations. For the record, the things that suggest Dent wasn't dead was: 1. Two Face and Batman fall from the same height, and Batman lives and isn't even that hurt. why would dent die? and 2. Batman, Instead of feeling for Dent's pulse and pronouncing to Gordon that "He's Dead, Jim" Batman just worries about what happens when "this get's out." no fretting over how he died. But okay, whatever beaks, you are smarter than me. Hope that makes you feel good about yourself.
Can we talk about the bible on this talkback? by TooWhippy	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:15:49 PM
HHHaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Eckhart as Dent/Two-Face was FUCKING AWESOME by Gungan Slayer	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:19:30 PM
Thanks for doing justice to my favorite Batman villain...wish I could see more...and there's still plenty of time before cameras roll for Batman 3...so i can still hope...
Depp as Joker would be great! by TheGreenStyle	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:19:52 PM
15 years ago. now I think he's a bit too old to continue Ledger's performance.
union... by TheGreenStyle	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:20:34 PM
my point exactly.
F* Joker- More Dent! by Hikaru Ichijo	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:22:16 PM
Two Face is safely tucked away in Arkham... for now
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE. by Burgundy82	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:23:24 PM
The final scene with the Joker illustrates one of the movie's major themes: Batman CANNOT kill. Even a ruthless murderer, who laughs as he's plummeting to certain death because he thinks he's won, Batman CATCHES AND SAVES. The Joker even says as much in his last few lines of dialogue, lamenting that Bruce is truly incorruptable. So why, why in the fuck, would Batman just a few scenes later allow Harvey Dent to fall to his death -- which, by the way, is a lame fucking way to go and the same exact fate Tommy Lee Jones' "Harvey Two Face" met at the hands of one Chris O'Donnell!? Speculating that Dent was transported under cover of darkness to Arkham, while holding a memorial for his public image, is the only ending that makes sense thematically. What. The. Hell.
Joker torments Dent in Arkham by Hikaru Ichijo	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:27:19 PM
until Dent goes even more nuts and we have a premise for a third film
Did anyone else think Eckhart was the the best thing in TDK? by The Grug	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:28:32 PM
TDK really didn't do much for me as a film, I saw it twice but it never clicked the way Batman Begins did. And though Ledger was terrific, I thought Eckhart's Harvey Dent was easily the most compelling character in the film.
Two Face "Best Batman Villian-Movie" by Hikaru Ichijo	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:31:36 PM

Oops- sp by Hikaru Ichijo	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:32:15 PM

james franco by smutpeddlar	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:34:20 PM
i think they should recast the joker with james franco
Dent was knocked out and sent to Arkham by Squashua	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:35:23 PM
and is laid up with a broken clavicle or whatever. The "buried" Dent publicly and now there is only Two Face. :D
part of me doesn't want them to make another one by palooka_boy	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:41:48 PM
it couldn't live up to TDK, so it would inevitably be disappointing, imho
Regardless of whether Nolan comes back.... by obiwayne	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:45:24 PM
WB will continue with the series. There's no way they won't with the money they are set to make after Dark Knight is said and done. The question is whether they will learn from the past and get someone in who can actually continue the series in the way it has been set up. As much as some people disliked Batman Returns (My favorite of the Burton Batmans) it made twice the budget back in Box Office receipts alone. Once Batman Forever came around, the formula was changed causing the returns to slip and not recover. Granted, a third Burton film might have done the same, but a different Batman and overall tone certainly did not help.
nice by CherryValance	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:46:22 PM
:) Anyway, yeah it didn't occur to me that he could possibly not be dead until I came here. lol Now that that's cleared up...
If you can't top TDK by nyj_et	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:46:57 PM
how can you even live up to it? I guess that's why I'm not in the biz.
Depp as Joker... by PeterParkerRG	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:48:18 PM
... for sure! I'd imagine the Riddler and even Catwoman would be a little silly in Nolan's "serious" Gotham. Johnny Depp's the only actor I can see pulling off the Joker that Ledger already established. Love the idea of a gang war though with the Penguin, Scarecrow, etc.
I'm sticking to my guns by TVguy4566	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:49:23 PM
If they hold true to their words and the next villian(s) are going to be lesser known villians, I am still betting it will be either Deadshot and/or Hush. Although their storylines may not be adaptable to the Nolan Batman universe, their characters certainly can. I think the whole Thomas Elliot/Hush conflict with Bruce/Batman fits in well with Nolan's universe. Obviously they would have to alter the story because Lazurus Pits, Clayface, and a few other elements from the storyline wouldn't fit. As for Deadshot, he may have been foreshadowed in the Gotham Knights DVD.
by Fletch Gannon	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:53:35 PM
Recasting the Joker is a bad idea...don't think they should try. For Rachel sure, she didn't make much on an impression in the BB, but Joker...doesn't make any sense. Burgundy82, BRAVO, I agree with you...there is still so much they could do with Two-Face. If I had my way with the third film it would be an outlaw Batman slowly losing himself to the darkness after losing so many allies (Gordon, Rachel, Dent, Lucius) and being drawn into a deadly relationship with the Catwoman. Alfred is his only link to the man he was and it's up to him to pull Bruce back for the edge.
BTW by TVguy4566	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:57:11 PM

Go full Dark Knight and have Superman hunting Batman by G100	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:58:09 PM
Yes it's a logistical franchise nightmare but after we have had The Joker the ultimate dark character Nolan could reverse it and have Superman as the polar opposite trying to hunt down Batman. Never going to happen of course but thematically it would be a nice way to follow it up.
I know what they can do for the third film by Jackie Boy	Sep 3rd, 2008 09:58:40 PM
Well, Batman's gone into exile, hasn't he? Wait a few years or just set it in the future with different, older actors (so recasting The Joker makes sense, since every other major character is also played by a different actor). Add mutants, the reappearance of Dent, and The Joker in Arkham, and call it... DARK KNIGHT RETURNS.
Told ya by Aeghast	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:00:52 PM
You suckers
BTW by TVguy4566	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:02:07 PM
Both Nolan and Bale say that they love Jeph Leob's Long Halloween and used some of plotline in the Dark Knight. So they could either do Leob's Hush or do the Holiday killer storyline (although I don't know if that would work as a movie villian.
no depp, thanks by illegaltouching	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:05:51 PM
recasting the joker with depp would be like recasting hannibal lecter with tim roth. (i know brian cox also played him. cox would fit nicely into a 3rd nolan batman by the way.)
BANE by Neosamurai85	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:05:52 PM
I still say BANE is the only way they can make a third and it now get silly. Add the Catwoman, sure. I'm game. But at this point Bane is the only villain that could hunt down the fugitive bat and take this saga to its dark conclusion.
The movie should be called Gotham City by EjkoUSC	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:06:53 PM
And I think Bane should or could be a villain. He's physical. and so far after two movies one type of villain Batman hasn't faced is a physical villain. Riddler could be creepy i suppose but hes really a poor mans Joker. Riddler cant top Joker. Bane couldnt top Joker either but at least Bane sort of covers different bases. He's a different type of threat. And he's too good to be relegated to henchman status. But above all I really do believe that Joker must be included if only in a smaller capacity. Like Hannibal in Silence of the Lambs.
Jesus Christ by waggy	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:07:46 PM
Can we please fucking stop with the "they shouldn't make another one" comments? This whole third movie curse is complete bullshit. Didn't Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter put the nails in that coffin? There is no conceivable scenario where WB wouldn't move forward with a third Batman movie, so why in the hell wouldn't you want the team that made the first two fantastic installments to return? Yeah, I'm not sure why they kept making Batman comics after Dark Knight Returns either.
illegatouching by EjkoUSC	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:12:52 PM
You seriously think Depp is to Ledger what Roth is to Hopkins? (though roth is good in his own right). Depp is more than capable of playing Joker and we all know that if given the chance to vote on it before TDK was cast that we'd all have chosen Depp over Ledger. Ledger was great but don't underestimate the fact that we all know Depp can play the part. And someone brought up the age thing. Depp strike you all as old? He's older but he's aged well and its not as if hes packing the pounds.
weird by illegaltouching	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:14:32 PM
bane and hannibal references in back to back posts.
How can they do Bane? by TVguy4566	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:15:49 PM
Bane's character is based on powers given to him from comic book world BS science. How can you do him in Nolan's Batman universe? I guess you could just make him a really strong guy, but the Venom storyline would never work.
ejkoUSC by illegaltouching	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:22:26 PM
nothing against depp. he could certainly do a great ledger as joker impression, but what's the point? depp and ledger have the same body type, and depp grow some scraggely hair. I can't think of an example where casting to looks worked to make a smooth transition between actors. I made the roth/hopkins comparison because they are both undeniably good actors that can play similar roles. Obviously, they don't look alike.
Wait 20 years. by Irina Spanko	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:23:13 PM
Then make The Dark Knight Returns.
TVguy4566: Bane by EjkoUSC	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:24:17 PM
Insofar as supervillains go its not as comic BS as most powered villains go. He's not as ridiculous as Freeze or Poison Ivy or Clayface per se. I think he ought be something more than just a "strong guy" who works out a lot. Maybe tone him down but they gotta grant him a little leeway.
IGN article by wjoeyu	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:27:40 PM
An IGN article a while back said that the novelization of TDK claimed that Two-Face died of the fall resulting in a broken neck. In addition to this, the article goes on to say that it also said that script clearly stated that Harvey Dent was dead. But all in all, it is really what was shown on screen... which was obviously very ambiguous to either conlusion. Being that Heath Ledger died, they could very easily bring back Harvey. Also, I agree with the very good point that was made... Nolan's has so many twists in his movies, who's to truly say that this could be a twist carried over to the sequel.
Bale as No 6 by BrooseTheScharuk	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:28:42 PM
I think that could work. His "intense" acting style could conceivably pass as an updated version of Patrick McGoohan's. Then again, I'm sure there are others. Russell Crowe, for instance -- who I actually don't like very much -- would bear more of a physical resemblance to PMcG, and might be able to pull off the performance part of it if he just sort of stopped trying to be so actie all the time and had some fun with his roles. Sheesh...
The clue is in the movie! by chrth	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:31:23 PM
What did Maroni say? "From one professional to another, if you're trying to scare somebody, pick a better spot. From this height, the fall wouldn't kill me." How high was Maroni? How high was Dent? Only Chris Nolan knows! Of course, it doesn't matter. Dent could be retconned alive if TPTB want him. So it's pointless to argue the matter.
As for the bad guy in the next film, do the Riddler by chrth	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:33:41 PM
Only do him the exact opposite of Jim Carrey (and Ledger/Nicholson to an extent). Make him dour and serious, but unable to control his compulsion to send clues to the police. No comedy from him. Just cold, calculating violence.
Another Batman movie by jawsfan	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:43:05 PM
Yes, there should be a third one. No, Chris Nolan is not an indispensable piece of the puzzle. There are plenty of directors who could take up the reins and do as well or better. The Dark Knight has plenty of "bad filmmaking" elements to it. I say give it to Michael Mann and Eric Roth. They can infuse a Batman story with intelligence and "cool" and create and strong, fluid narrative. BB and TDK were very flawed technically, and we should demand better.
I hope the next Batman is directed by ... by Geekgasm	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:44:04 PM
... Brett Ratner. Or McG. Or Paul WS Anderson. Just the hackiest guy they can get.
I want a detective film by chrth	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:47:41 PM
TDK had some detective elements, but not enough. I want Batman vs Riddler in a film where knowledge is the necessary ingredient to save Gotham's soul. Make it intricate and complex, intimate and compelling. Piece o' cake, right?
Re: G100 by SilentP	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:49:35 PM
That is an awesome idea. Seriously, that would be fantastic, they should totally do that. They won't, but they totally should.
TWO FACE NEVER SHOULDVE WORN THAT STUPID 1/2 SUIT by eoneon	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:52:52 PM
i thought it would have been better to see him w/out that lame carnie half normal half bedazzled suit. other than that i liked Dent/two face. oh and do another film w riddler and or catwoman and show the joker in arkham you can use heaths face in makeup and digitize it on someone elses body a la the crow. dont give him any lines,just show him all maniacal looking. oh and jazzterminator...nice name btw. fuck you wanna be first poster and you uber conservative anal douche... this isnt a political talkback you ass. go eat rush limbaughs taint
unionJACKass.webs.com by mr. whoa	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:53:42 PM
I think ricarleite was mockingly stating that God has a great sense of humor in taking Heath away, since he would so obviously be an integral part of a Batman sequel. I don't believe he was really laughing about his death.
"Didn't Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter put the nails in that by chrth	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:53:46 PM
HP maybe, but ROTK was full of unmitigated bullshit (don't get me started, it's bedtime), so no, coffin is still there ... but is Dent's body in it?!?
leobloom... by ZoeFan	Sep 3rd, 2008 10:58:40 PM
Good to see who the haters are. I don't care what someone's affiliation is, if they can't admit her speach was amazing, they they are a Kool Aid drinker aka a hater.
Badass_Harry_Calahan: an English lesson... by Executor	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:02:52 PM
If the Joker were "detrimental" to the story, then he wouldn't be recast, because that would mean that the Joker would harm the story. I think you mean something like "vital". Detrimental, as used in a sentence: If you want to make a bet that the Joker is going to be recast in the next movie, that would be detrimental to your bank account.
eoneon, that "STUPID 1/2 SUIT" was actually DEnt's suit by Regicidal_Maniac	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:05:33 PM
from when he was burned to a crisp. He just put ity back on when he left the hospital, it was his only clothing other that the hospital gown he was wearing in bed. It wasn't bedazzled. (And 'bedazzled'? Are you Australian? Coz I remember those lousy Bedazzler ads.)
Tell me why the mayor says... by nnnuts	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:07:19 PM
"How long can you keep a lid on this?" What's the point of the scene where the mayor asks Gordon this? THINK ABOUT IT.
Executor: Maybe he meant 'instrumental'? and Dent by chrth	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:07:50 PM
well, he had not much time to live anyway, you know humans have skin for a reason. Even if he survived, he'd be dead in a week or so from infection. Dent knew this. He didn't want to live, he wanted to die.
Is there even a coffin the movie? by TallBoy66	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:13:48 PM
Argh, I've seen the flick twice and all I saw was a service that kinda looked like a memorial, but I don't remember seeing a coffin. Screencaps, darnit!
Nolan and Bale will return for a third... by Dark Knight Lite	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:15:21 PM
mark my words.
Here's the catch though... by AtaxianTheMagnificent	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:15:47 PM
Harvey Dent is dead but "Two Face" is not. Nerdtatsic discussions such as this is what keeps hype alive long after the movie has hit DVD shelves. Harvey as we knew him, or more importantly, as the people in Gotham knew him (relied on him) to be, is long gone. The public couldn't handle seeing their white knight turn into something so gruesome, to see him become what it is that he swore to stop. That gives Batman a new purpose, to take the heat and be the hero that they will not even know they have. Add to that fact that Nolan said that the biggest mistake that Burton made was killing off The Joker (More than likely because they couldn't afford Nicholson again...look up all the money he made and the rights to the film that he had in place. It broke records.) and that we know that Scarecrow is still out and about Gotham...there is no way that he would kill off a character who had just reached their full potential. Eckhart is lying...that much is clear.
Is everybody retarded? Check out comingsoon by Spartan_Im_Not	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:19:16 PM
and you'll see that Eckhart answered the question posed: "is harvey dent alive?" Response: No. People!! Of course dent is dead. Two-Face is all that's left!! Eckhart is no retard. He's gonna answer these questions as sly as possible to not give anything away.
There will be a third film and I believe by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:20:55 PM
Talias Al Ghul has a role in it, but not as main villian. Knowing Nolan he had her in mind from the get go. This is why Nolan did not care about killing Rachel. Talias al Ghul will have a role. I also believe Nolan will bring back the Joker, but with Harley Quinn in tow. With Harley it would make a differnt sort of Joker and, if casted properly people would accept it.
Dammit Ataxian! You beat me to the punch. by Spartan_Im_Not	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:21:56 PM
I absolutely agree. Eckhart knows the door is still open.
If Nolan loses his mind and turns down ... by Spartan_Im_Not	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:24:40 PM
David Fincher would be the best choice possible. Aside of Nolan, Fincher is the best mix of story + powerful cutting edge visuals that Batman requires. I'd like to see Bale turn his back on the franchise with Fincher on board. Of course...nobody wants to see Nolan leave.
Alex Proyas for Superman!!! by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:25:12 PM
Hey if you a going to make a Dark Superhero film, he is your man.
Dark City > All of Finchers Films!!!!! by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:26:43 PM
However, I count Zodiac as a seperate entity. I love that film and still refuse to admit it was directed by Fincher.
Executor by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:33:14 PM
You are correct! I should have said Instrumental, but I have been drinking since, well Lunch time so I misspoke. You know what I meant though!
Thank god some of you idiots dont get to make movies by EjkoUSC	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:35:19 PM
If you are someone who 1) thinks Two Face is still alive and 2) want to be a writer or director should QUIT NOW. You obviously dont understand clear straight information when it is spoon fed to you. Yes Dent's death was a little weak and anti-cinematic but it serves to motivate the whole resolution of the movie if not vaguely setting up where Batman must go in the next movie. If you can not see that then you ought to stay far away from making movies and leave it to intelligent people like nolan to make them. You same dripping drooling fanboys would no doubt try to squeeze Boba Fett and Darth Maul's blue clone in. Two-Face is dead. There was no ambiguity. Batmand and Gordon had a goddamn 5 minute conversation over his dead body figuring out what the hell to do. Yeah I'm sure Gordon doesn't know how to check a pulse. We know Two-Face is dead because we saw the Dark Knight. did you?
Daniel Day-Lewis for the new Joker! by Raymar	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:36:05 PM
I drink your milkshake! I drink it up!
Beaks, if you thought it was incredibly apparent by jmyoung666	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:36:50 PM
that Dent was dead at the end of Batman, you're an idiot. Or very unsophisticated when it comes to video narratives. Gordon was dead earlier wasn't he? And by the way, I am not saying it's obvious he was alive either, although I do believe they wasted a lot of potential by killing him. To assume that there was no possibility of an attempt to fuck with the audience strikes me as seriously unsophisticated with respect to narratives in any of a variety of formats.
EjkoUSC by jmyoung666	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:40:43 PM
You clearly missed the point of the ending. Dent's death did NOT set up the ending. His corruption did. The fact that he was as scarred on the inside as he was on the outside. The fact that the shining knight attempted to murder the family of the police chief. Jesus, are you and Beaks the type of people who found Pulp Fiction confusing the first time through?
jmyoung666 by EjkoUSC	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:43:14 PM
Video narratives? Whatever that means. Gordon was "dead" earlier as a staged death backed by the police (although it was something of a plothole if you think about it because how would Gordon stage his own death during a surprise Joker attack?) Yes they did waste potential by killing him but that's the cookie that crumbled. Just cause potential was wasted doesnt mean they are gonna fix it. Just gonna have to let it go. And fucking with the audience just for "fucking with the audience" sake is unsophisticated. A hack is someone who would fuck around with a plot just to do so. And in any varieties of formats? What are you talking about? Haha, yeah I guess every narrative in "any variety of formats" needs some fucked up plotting to be sophisticated. Thank god you're not a writer.
but isn't Johnny Depp playing the Riddler??? by Rupee88	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:44:47 PM
some of you retards will believe anything...same ones voting for McCain in a couple of months
jmyoung666 by EjkoUSC	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:45:53 PM
Corruption death who cares. Point is HIS BODY IS DEAD. Dent. Two-Face. The body. Is. Dead. Nolan gave you nothing to indicate he is alive. Nothing. A mistake to kill him? I think so. I was bummed. But just cause it was something of a missed opportunity doesnt mean I'm gonna just pretend I think he will be back around. I'd hop on the bandwagon too if there were anything to go on. But theres not.
The next time we see "Batman"... by Cheif Brody	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:52:15 PM
Will be in a Warner Bros. hastily thrown together "Justice League" shitfest. And Bale & Nolan will be nowhere around.
quadfather09 by cohjam	Sep 3rd, 2008 11:56:22 PM
The relevant part of the script is the description of the fall. It reads, "Dent lies at the bottom of the hole, his neck broken. DEAD."
In Nolans World Dent could not have lived long with the scarring by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 4th, 2008 12:05:45 AM
Not in Nolans world. I loved this film as stated above, but thought Begins was better. I thought TDK was too long for what it was and had too many unforgivable flaws (Who would have ever thought I would miss the presence of Katie Holmes?) Nolan has to be gay (Not that there is anything wrong with that) but his taste in women is awful! Yeah he had Scarlett in the Prestige, but I am betting that was at studio request. But he also had Swank in Insomnia and she is just nasty (And Manish). Nolan is the reason people fell for Cher as Catwoman.
Batman should fight the Trade Federation next. by MEMEOVORE	Sep 4th, 2008 12:11:28 AM
guaranteed winner, make it so...you're welcome.
You know... by DOGSOUP	Sep 4th, 2008 12:19:06 AM
..this movie wasn't that good. Just saying.
Waited for all the hype to die down... by Master Bruce	Sep 4th, 2008 12:20:09 AM
and fially saw The Dark Knight, and I'm afraid that's pretty much what it was...HYPE. Best Actor for Heath? Maybe...and I mean MAYBE. Best Picture?, comparisons to THE GODFATHER?, the greatest-superhero-movie- ever-made?, nay, the greatest filmic experience ever to be witnessed by carbon-based lifeforms? Holy P.T. Barnum, Batman! You've got to be Bat-kidding me! Was it a good movie? Yes. Was it a great movie? In the words of Will Smith' "Hell Naw!" I mean, why do critics & the sheep-like masses heap mounds of over-the-top praise on this film? I'm asking, seriously. It's choppy, over-long, & has way too much going on in it. All the returning major characters - Bruce, Alfred, Raechel, Gordon & Fox - were all much better served in BATMAN BEGINS. Maggie G does fine replacing Katie Holmes but has far little to do w/her role before her untimely & unecessary demise, which Wayne seems far too remote & detached about.(If she truly was the "love-of-his-life", why doesn't he kill or nearly kill The Joker w/his bare hands before Gordon has to stop him or something?) Aaron Eckhart is the overlooked & underrated performer here. As Harvey/Two-Face, he gives a solid, scary & ultimately, heart-breaking performance w/an incredible make-up/spfx job as well. Yet, he's killed off - a mistake made w/many a Bat-villian in the past -while in the ultimate irony, The Joker lives to maime & kill another day. And as for Heath's Joker...yes, it was very well done, but in a creepy & sadistic manner drained of any & all possible fun, much like the movie itself. If I wanted to be disturbed by the depiction of true crime or the actions of a borderline-deranged vigilante, I could've watched DEATH WISH. This is suppoesed to be BATMAN. I'm sorry if Christopher Nolan still gives the impression that he's embarassed by the source material, but that's the way it seems. If he didn't want to deal w/a man who dresses up as a bat & fights criminals who dress even more garishly, then why didn't he just go ahead & remake DEATH WISH himself. Both he & star Christian Bale would've been perfectly suited for it. It also would've been much easier to chase respectability & Oscar gold w/a DEATH WISH remake than in a movie about comic book characters. And let's not kid ourselves, as much as we love this stuff, that's what it is & what it should be. No matter how you dress it up, it can never be THE GODFATHER or GOODFELLAS while 2 guys are running around wearing Halloween costumes...it just can't, and it shouldn't try to be. Now that said, it doesn't have to go to the other extreme either, like the campy or over-the-top Joel Schumacher Bat-films of the mid to late 90's. One foot in relity & one foot in fantasy seems to be the best way to go w/stories like these...see SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE, Tim Burton's BATMAN, THE MASK OF ZORRO, or more recently; BATMAN BEGINS or IRON MAN for the proof.
After you mention DEATH WISH three times... by GravitysRainbow	Sep 4th, 2008 12:26:08 AM
I stop paying attention to you.
~~~as long as it's not that shitfest "DEATH OF BATMAN" film~~~ by The Marquis de Side 3	Sep 4th, 2008 12:26:13 AM
Bale's sister produced that 2003 fanfilm where Batman is captured and ass raped by a junkie, then he commits suicide with heroine. shitty piece of garbage. no wonder Bale smacks the shit out of his family. I end up talking to London police too about how my sisters drive me up the fucking wall with their "art" superhero film. =0p
Waited for all the hype to die down... by Master Bruce	Sep 4th, 2008 12:26:41 AM
and finally saw The Dark Knight, and I'm afraid that's pretty much what it was...HYPE. Best Actor for Heath? Maybe...and I mean MAYBE. Best Picture?, comparisons to THE GODFATHER?, the greatest-superhero-movie- ever-made?, nay, the greatest filmic experience ever to be witnessed by carbon-based life forms? Holy P.T. Barnum, Batman! You've got to be Bat-kidding me! Was it a good movie? Yes. Was it a great movie? In the words of Will Smith' "Hell Naw!" I mean, why do critics & the sheep-like masses heap mounds of over-the-top praise on this film? I'm asking, seriously. It's choppy, over-long, & has way too much going on in it. All the returning major characters - Bruce, Alfred, Rachel, Gordon & Fox - were all much better served in BATMAN BEGINS. Maggie G does fine replacing Katie Holmes but has far little to do w/her role before her untimely & unnecessary demise, which Wayne seems far too remote & detached about.(If she truly was the "love-of-his-life", why doesn't he kill or nearly kill The Joker w/his bare hands before Gordon has to stop him or something?) Aaron Eckhart is the overlooked & underrated performer here. As Harvey/Two-Face, he gives a solid, scary & ultimately, heart-breaking performance w/an incredible make-up/spfx job as well. Yet, he's killed off - a mistake made w/many a Bat-villain in the past -while in the ultimate irony, The Joker lives to maim & kill another day. And as for Heath's Joker...yes, it was very well done, but in a creepy & sadistic manner drained of any & all possible fun, much like the movie itself. If I wanted to be disturbed by the depiction of true crime or the actions of a borderline-deranged vigilante, I could've watched DEATH WISH. This is supposed to be BATMAN. I'm sorry if Christopher Nolan still gives the impression that he's embarrassed by the source material, but that's the way it seems. If he didn't want to deal w/a man who dresses up as a bat & fights criminals who dress even more garishly, then why didn't he just go ahead & remake DEATH WISH himself. Both he & star Christian Bale would've been perfectly suited for it. It also would've been much easier to chase respectability & Oscar gold w/a DEATH WISH remake than in a movie about comic book characters. And let's not kid ourselves, as much as we love this stuff, that's what it is & what it should be. No matter how you dress it up, it can never be THE GODFATHER or GOODFELLAS while 2 guys are running around wearing Halloween costumes...it just can't, and it shouldn't try to be. Now that said, it doesn't have to go to the other extreme either, like the campy or over-the-top Joel Schumacher Bat-films of the mid to late 90's. One foot in reality & one foot in fantasy seems to be the best way to go w/stories like these...see SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE, Tim Burton's BATMAN, THE MASK OF ZORRO, or more recently; BATMAN BEGINS or IRON MAN for the proof. [Sorry for dbl-post]
Master Bruce by Badass_Harry_Callahan	Sep 4th, 2008 12:28:36 AM
I agree with most of it. Well except Maggie G is a nasty dogfaced Pig.
GravitysRainbow... by Master Bruce	Sep 4th, 2008 12:32:28 AM
Uh, yeah...guess your ADD prevented you from getting my point.
Heath's Big Ass Shoes by MilkyLicker	Sep 4th, 2008 12:41:25 AM
In response to those who want to recast Depp as the Joker...who's to say Depp would even want to play the Joker? I mean, Ledger just did one hell of a job, would it be almost disrespectful to play that role again so soon?
Ras Al Ghul's coming back by Grand Moff Toht	Sep 4th, 2008 12:44:15 AM
Didn't you know? He didn't die in that little train crash in Batman Begins. He went into some hibernatic state. His followers, disguised as Gotham City workers, dug him out later on and brought him back to the Lazarus pits. Ras is coming back and he's bringing Talia. Wait and see...
Joker, done. Two-Face, done. Next... by mothandrust	Sep 4th, 2008 12:53:57 AM
Ghul died and Batman let him die in Begins. His attitude was that he didn't have to save him. Why didn't that carry on to the Joker? Let him fall goddamit. Superman lifted everything in returns, and it seems Batman lets everything fall. Seriously, all the bad guys fall out of buildings and Batman either catches them or lets gravity have its wicked way. Anyway, we've seen Ra do his stuff, and we've seen the Joker and Harvey do the best of their shtick. It tied up nicely and was a mostly dark and satisfying finish - no need to drag out these bad guys again. Bring on Bane, Talia, and some Meoww!!
JGL is the only choice for the Joker. by WhinyNegativeBitch	Sep 4th, 2008 01:00:30 AM
Hes going to be exactly the right age, he looks uncannily like Ledger, and hes equally as talented, and hes not yet hit a high profile. Get him to sign now.
You can die falling from three feet by King Sweyn Forkbeard	Sep 4th, 2008 01:03:57 AM
If you land the wrong way. I certainly wouldn't take the fact that Bats survived a fall from the same height as any indication that TF did, seeing that one of them was a supremely fit individual wearing hi-tech body armour, and the other was a lawyer who had recently suffered major medical trauma. Y'know, shock, blood loss, that sort of thing.
What happened to Rommel? by Grand Moff Toht	Sep 4th, 2008 01:04:17 AM
Has that TB disappeared or did I imagine something about a Randall Wallace-scripted Michael Bay film about Rommel?
What happened to Rommel? by Grand Moff Toht	Sep 4th, 2008 01:04:19 AM
Has that TB disappeared or did I imagine something about a Randall Wallace-scripted Michael Bay film about Rommel?
This article reminds me of an old Bloom County cartoon. by Cotton McKnight	Sep 4th, 2008 01:06:20 AM
It was a Nightline spoof where Ted Koppel declared that nothing happened that particular day. That was the topic- why nothing happened. He had a bunch of guests on, asking them what the story is on the fact that there is no story. I don't want to say this was a waste of time but I never for one second thought he was alive, until this article. So this article basically brought it up, and then led me right back to where I was in the first place.
couple of things.. by soup74	Sep 4th, 2008 01:07:21 AM
1st..grativys rainbow..are you named after the klaxons song? (later masterfully remixed by soulwax) and 2nd, the only place for chris nolan to go now is bane. did anyone read the bane mini series after knightfall, where bane broke out of prison and was going after the peddlers of 'venom.' batman was torn (and a little scared)about helping him or stopping him. it was masterfully written, and with just a little tweaking (just a little) it would make an acceptable follow up to dark knight. the only problem is that you have to give some kind of back story to bane. and you cant do both the knightfall and the return of bane in one movie. (unless you're chris nolan and you figure out a genius way)
BTW by Grand Moff Toht	Sep 4th, 2008 01:07:25 AM
Agree Ras should stay dead and buried. Was just kidding. However, no Bane without a shiny silver Lucha Libre mask please. Nice sweaty wrestling match between the Batman and a 'roided up hulking monster should be a worthy successor to THE DARK KNIGHT.
Eckhart & Gyellhaul should be back for Batman 3 by ugh	Sep 4th, 2008 01:08:29 AM
Yes, they are dead and should stay that way. But why can't they both haunt the dreams of Bruce Wayne/Batman? Play on the guilt and depression. As for villains, I think fans should all take a step back and think about this for a sec -- notice that the vast majority of major characters in Nolan's first 2 Batman films have been played by stars that most of us would never suspect that they were capable of what they brought to the table. Easiest example is Heath Ledger -- nomination worthy performance, but when it was announced a few years ago that he got the part of The Joker, fanboys flipped out all over the world. Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie both make for ideal villains (The Riddler and Catwoman, respectively), but then you run the risk of moronic comparisons to the Joel Schmaucher movies, an A-list cast with a Z-list script and execution (an obvious exaggeration, but I think you know what I mean), although I believe they have the talent to pull it off. But I have a different preference for villains in Batman 3: Temple Fugate, aka The Clock King, and Floyd Lawton, aka Deadshot. Why? Because I don't think Nolan should cover anymore ground that has been covered in past live-action Batman films. Besides, "The Dark Knight" has laid the ground work for WB and DC: Go dark with the story lines. Finally, if somehow, someway, Nolan would be tempted to have The Joker make an appearance, instead of using delete footage from the theatrical cut of Heath, use an actor that is just as talented as Heath (pre-Dark Knight) and go with someone well respected in the industry but not that well known to a world wide audiences. So my choice for a new Joker would be Joseph Gordon-Levitt. And if there is no place for The Joker in the 3rd film, Gordon-Levitt could easily jump in to any of the male villain roles that I've already suggested.
Joseph Gordon-Levitt could easily fit in the role of The Joker!! by ugh	Sep 4th, 2008 01:13:06 AM
if necessary (see original post)
I've seen "The Dark Knight" 5 times. by Evangelion217	Sep 4th, 2008 01:19:16 AM
And I've come to realize that it is flawless. The people who claim that their are flaws, are nitpicking. It is a masterpiece, and vastly superiore to "Batman Begins." Which is also a brilliant film. I hope Nolan will come back for the third and final installment. He might not be able to surpass the genius of "The Dark Knight", but maybe he could make it as great as "Batman Begins." Which is better then any other comic-book film that isn't "The Dark Knight." :)
Evangelion by RKO2285	Sep 4th, 2008 01:27:28 AM
Seen it 4 times and couln't agree w/ u more..
http://tinyurl.com/6anohe by Gorgomel	Sep 4th, 2008 01:31:57 AM
What about Robin?
And it's great that Two-Face is dead. by Evangelion217	Sep 4th, 2008 01:36:29 AM
He's a fantastic villain that was given ALOT of justice by Christopher Nolan. Putting in the third installment, is just going to feel anti-climatic, and tediouse. Especially when he'll be saying, "YOU KILLED RACHEL DAWES" every 10 minutes. And if the third installment is going to be three hours long, then it will DEFINITELY become tediouse with Two-Face. So bring back Scarecrowe, and add on The Riddler, and Catwoman. Easy as pie. :) P.S: Any fan who thought Two-Face survived that fall, is an idiotic fanboy, who can't deal with reality. ;)
until I hear it from Nolan... by My friends call me Killjoy	Sep 4th, 2008 01:37:39 AM
Two-Face is alive. I know that the script states that the fall broke Dent's neck, but it's easy to see that the editing of The Dark Knight skirts that. They never go there. I think that was a bit of hedging after Heath Ledger passed away. If they wanted to make Dent dead, Batman or Gordon would have said that he was dead. In the film...it's ambiguous and whether the ambiguity of the ending was Nolan's idea or not makes no difference. WB knows that you can't keep throwing villians away every movie. And you certainly don't want to throw away two in one movie.
Batman can kill for two reasons. by Evangelion217	Sep 4th, 2008 01:39:33 AM
1. To defend himself. 2. To save an innocent life. So Batman killing Two-Face was justified.
I agree with Jackie Boy. by Evangelion217	Sep 4th, 2008 01:44:24 AM
Let the third installment be loosely based on "The Dark Knight Returns." Take out Superman, give Christian Bale some make-up to look older, and cast the legendary DANIEL DAY LEWIS as The Joker. It would be perfection. :)
Nolan isn't making The Prisoner. by jenkis	Sep 4th, 2008 01:47:59 AM
Keep up Beaks, it's being remade for TV with Sir Ian McKellan as No. 2.
FUCK CHRISTOPHER NOLAN... by thecomedian	Sep 4th, 2008 01:49:30 AM
Dark Knight was great. It had awesome scenes that I never thought I'd see on film. Namely the scene in the Hospital with The Joker and Two-Face. Believe me I was all "holy shit, the Joker is talking to Two-Face and he's wearing drag. This is fucking insane!" But if Chris Nolan doesn't want to do a third movie then fuck him. Get the guy he's been ripping off this whole time. That's right, JUST GET DAVID FINCHER TO DO IT INSTEAD.
If you still think Two-Face is alive after what Nolan just said. by Evangelion217	Sep 4th, 2008 01:50:57 AM
Then you're a moron. Plain and simple. Stop denying reality, and learn to deal with facts.
David Finder is great.............. by Evangelion217	Sep 4th, 2008 01:54:20 AM
But he's never done anything as great as "TDK." And if the studio's won't give him any room to do what he wants, then it will be just as bad as the theatrical version of "Alien 3." But if he does get to do what he wants, then we might get a film on the same quality as "Alien 3: Extended Cut", or "Se7en", or "Zodiac." And if Fincher can't do it, then pick Paul Thomas Anderson. P.S: How has Nolan been ripping off Fincher?? What an asinine statement.
Oaky, I'll just come out and say it. by Evangelion217	Sep 4th, 2008 01:55:48 AM
The third installment will suck if Nolan doesn't come back to direct it. And Bale should just follow Nolan into the light, and quit playing Batman. Thus, it will probably the WB is full of idiots again, and I would gladly boycot the third installment, if Nolan and Bale do not return.
Seventh. by SlickyVonBoner	Sep 4th, 2008 02:11:09 AM
Don't be saying the next will be the 3rd Batman when it will be number 7. That's 6 Batman movies in 20 years. Stop while you're ahead and on top. Give it a rest for awhile. It was the best movie I've seen in years, though. They can't top it.
AVATAR - Fucking our eyeballs in 2009 ! by Motoko Kusanagi	Sep 4th, 2008 02:13:27 AM
yay
Jenkis... by TheRealMoriarty	Sep 4th, 2008 02:26:27 AM
... you keep up. Universal's still actively developing a PRISONER film. There was a draft by David and Janet Peoples recently delivered, and it's still very much on Nolan's dance card. It's totally separate from the new series.
Agreed, the only one who should and could is Depp. by The7Returns	Sep 4th, 2008 02:26:31 AM
He is the only living actor who has the talent to make us forget Heath Ledger, yet honor that brilliant performance. Nolan saying he had no future plans for Joker in a third film is absolutely a blatant lie.
Thoughts on TDK and Heath's performance by Soapfish	Sep 4th, 2008 02:34:19 AM
I have been reading aintitcool for a long time, but have chosen to stay out of talkbacks because I read a few posts and I get pissed at humanity. That being said, I feel compelled to post for the first time. I thought Heath's performance was spectacular. I have never been in so much awe at single performance. He dissolved into the character. The movie had a lot of hype, but I remained suspicious. When I saw the movie I was pleasantly surprised. Nolan nailed everything that is great about Batman. The movie has its flaws, but overall it was great. I have seen it many times and each time I find my mouth literally open during every Joker screen time. Speculation on whether Two-Face is dead or not, who will make what, etc. is pointless. Only time will tell. You may now start hurling the flaming verbal assaults that are most likely aimed my way, being as I probably said something (God knows what, something likely surrounding my bashing talkbacks) that deems such an attack.
phoenixmagi2 by EjkoUSC	Sep 4th, 2008 02:35:45 AM
Wow good goddamn point about Bruce's penthouse. I'm not gonna have to laugh everytime old pig face says her line about it being the safest place in Gotham. And I had a problem with the plot point of Gordon faking his death at a surprise Joker attack. Guess he saw that shit coming.
Soapfish by EjkoUSC	Sep 4th, 2008 02:37:50 AM
You didnt really say anything interesting or controversial or obnoxious enough to warrant an attack so... Good job!
Two Face is dead. Anyone who thought different is stupid... by Zardoz	Sep 4th, 2008 02:41:09 AM

EjkoUSC by odo19	Sep 4th, 2008 02:42:27 AM
I just assumed that Gordon knew that the Joker was going to try and assassinate the Mayor and wore a bullet-proof vest. Then when the Joker attacked he luckily got shot and just decided to improvise and play dead.
odo19 by EjkoUSC	Sep 4th, 2008 02:48:33 AM
If Gordon knew or suspected that Joker would launch another surprise attack resulting in the deaths of civilians and cops he'd be fired. So no.
EjkoUSC by odo19	Sep 4th, 2008 03:01:13 AM
I'm pretty sure he did know. I don't really remember. DId'nt Gordon see a picture of the mayor jokerized in the next days news paper in the scene where Batman takes the piece of the wall to analyze? Then there was some dialogue it being clue as to the Jokers next victim.
My friends call me Killjoy by cohjam	Sep 4th, 2008 03:01:16 AM
It's not Chris Nolan but if you listen to the Creative Screenwriting podcast interview with Jonathan Nolan, Jon says that Two-Face is dead. He mentions it as an important plot point since Joker gets Batman to break his "no killing" rule.
Christian Bale for The Prisioner? by Wonderboys	Sep 4th, 2008 03:03:27 AM
Hell yeah! That would be great!
Sorry to sound Naive but.... by D o o d	Sep 4th, 2008 03:10:10 AM
what is this TOWELHEAD thing about. It sounds awefully racist!
Eckhart is a... by VegasRon	Sep 4th, 2008 03:44:42 AM
...classy motherfucker.
Burgundy82 by Particularly Hard Vato	Sep 4th, 2008 03:58:41 AM
I hear you. Now let's get the Penguin selling some weapons! Let's get Two-face killing some mobsters! And let's bring back Ras!
Theatricality, deception by kafka07	Sep 4th, 2008 03:59:06 AM
he's still alive
Why couldn't the recast the Joker? by Particularly Hard Vato	Sep 4th, 2008 04:01:55 AM
Joker Reforms. Hires and attorney to get him out of Arkham, blaming his mental illness on the fear gass that was released. Harvey Dent's sucessor watches as all these criminals start getting let out because the feargas is blamed for their criminal actions. Tehy are in fact victims- and here is the Joker- scarred a little, but suited up, on television, discussing his crimes, making money selling books doing appearances, stupid teenage kids worshipping him like MArilyn Manson- that would be some heavy shit! And Dent comes out to clean shit up by killing people!
Evangelion217 by Particularly Hard Vato	Sep 4th, 2008 04:05:04 AM
If they even dared to do The Dark Knight Returns as one movie and not like SIX i would boycott the damn thing!!!
Not just another chapter by Mr Gorilla	Sep 4th, 2008 04:09:37 AM
I really do like the way The Dark Knight aimed to be a full, complete story - not just another chapter in a franchise.
Dexter sounds like a good replacement! by masteryoda007	Sep 4th, 2008 04:10:20 AM
I'm with The Ender Smites Foes. Sounds like a great idea to cast C. Hall as the Joker.
New Prisoner movie....series....? by JADSTERSDAD	Sep 4th, 2008 04:18:04 AM
Glad to hear the movie is still on the cards. Espcially with Nolan possibly at the helm. But the new series looks good (and McKellan says so, of the scripts). What I can't understand is why I had to come across this news here. Neither the new show nor the development of the movie have been discussed much here or elsewhere.
QUIT WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD by Ray Gamma	Sep 4th, 2008 04:22:01 AM
that's my thoughts on Chris Nolan and Batman. Both of these movies were excellent. Don't risk another one. There are no cool characters left in the Batman universe. Catwoman? Goofy.
apart from The Riddler by Ray Gamma	Sep 4th, 2008 04:27:20 AM
but when I think of the Riddler now, I can't get the image out of my head of Jim Carrey's most over-acted performance of his career. (I'm not a Carrey hater. I thought he was excellent in "eternal sunshine...")
Dark Knight can't be topped? by mr.brownstone	Sep 4th, 2008 04:28:21 AM
What's it like having no imagination?
Depp for the Joker. by 11dayempire	Sep 4th, 2008 04:35:33 AM
He's got a similar enough facial structure to Ledger that he'd pass muster under the makeup, he's got the acting chops to build on Heath's interpretation (rather than doing a straight impersonation) and he's the only person in Hollywood with enough goodwill stored in credit to take on the role. Jolie as Catwoman could work, if they borrow the "dominatrix hooker" interpretation of the character from Year One. The Riddler's a piece of piss to do properly in Nolan's universe; he's a cross between the Zodiac Killer and John Doe from Seven. As for other directors to take on the franchise if Nolan passes... Paul Greengrass is the most obvious contender for a Nolan-esque sequel; he's stylistically similar to Nolan - and better at doing the wobbly-cam action scenes to boot - and his "social conscience" film-making would seem to tie in well with Nolan's take on Batman. Alex Proyas would be good, though his take on it would be more comic book-y. I could see Darren Aaronofsky having a fair crack of the whip, too.
Perhaps Nolan meant that he's dead as in by Lemming	Sep 4th, 2008 04:37:29 AM
He won't be back in another movie. It's still conceivable he's been taken to Arkham never to be heard from again.
suck it, dweebs! by ironic_name	Sep 4th, 2008 04:43:32 AM

THIS IS PROOF THAT DENT/2FACE IS ALIVE. by alice 13	Sep 4th, 2008 04:45:36 AM
he totally gives it away . nicely played trap.- well done. im so happy now i cant wait for bats3
and yet, lemming prooves that there is no reasoning by ironic_name	Sep 4th, 2008 04:45:52 AM
with ppl
Two Face is fucking deader than fried chicken by Stalkeye	Sep 4th, 2008 04:46:25 AM
..and Han shot first.
or proves by ironic_name	Sep 4th, 2008 04:46:39 AM

Dark Knight on DVD/Blu-Ray by sambrook	Sep 4th, 2008 04:46:55 AM
Someone asked earlier on when it would be released - apparently it's due for the first/second week of December (guess there's no point getting it out any earlier when it's still doing so strong at the cinemas and IMAX still taking bookings until mid-November). Looks like there will be 1-disc and 2-disc DVDs, 3-disc Blu-Ray and a big Blu-Ray package with lots of goodies (maybe that Batpod design that was floating around the nets).
Ok who's the wise ass that leaked the Screener on the torrents? by Stalkeye	Sep 4th, 2008 04:48:34 AM
so much for that rumored 2009 DVD release.
Bring on the ManBat and The Riddler by Monkey_King	Sep 4th, 2008 04:49:32 AM
That was be awesome. Detective work, martial arts, riddles to solve, people in peril, aerial fights. Yes, yes, Y-E-S!!!
Lemming by sambrook	Sep 4th, 2008 04:55:33 AM
I don't think that's the case - if they wanted to make the audience believe he was dead why trick them and say "Aha! He's not! But we won't show him!". It would be a wasted twist. I think his death is the perfect end to the tragic tale of Harvey Dent and the hope he represented. If they bring him back then it has to be for a reason.
Moriarty.... by jenkis	Sep 4th, 2008 05:04:48 AM
Amazing as the Peoples duo are (and they delivered their original version 2 years ago), this will go the way of Nolan's Howard Hawks' film. Nolan's too smart to make a movie of a property when a TV version has just happened.
Comingsoon.net has a good quote by sambrook	Sep 4th, 2008 05:16:22 AM
When Eckhart told them what Nolan said - that Dent is definitely dead. CS/SHH!: That's not a problem in comic book movies. You could still come back. Eckhart: I think in contract negotiations it's a problem.
"There is no conceivable scenario where WB wouldn't move forward by Shan	Sep 4th, 2008 05:57:38 AM
Thermonuclear War. Just saying.
"You think I want to escape from this?! by Larry Sellers	Sep 4th, 2008 06:24:36 AM
There is no escape from this!" I knew from the moment he said that in the climax, Dent would not be coming back. And I think the line "The Joker won..." means that he managed to corrupt Dent AND (to the audience) he succeeded in making Batman a killer. To being back Dent would defeat the sacrifice in TDK. As for recasting the Joker...I was initially all for it. Why should The Joker belong to Heath and Heath alone? It's a character but not HIS character...but then I went to youtube and saw a fuckload of Joker impressions. What iconic villain inspires that kind of borderline obsessive fandom? Heath's interpretation was not definitive, but it's the most fucked up, fun, and vicious Joker we've seen yet. "I think we're destined to do this forever..." I'm all for a recast. Just keep the role in a minor capacity plot-wise. He was obviously meant for a sequel. The show must go on.
New Prisoner movie.. by OBSD	Sep 4th, 2008 06:25:37 AM
Since it's about an "unnamed spy" who quits after years of service, I think there's only one choice. Pierce Brosnan! If they do it right, they could tie it into Bond into the advertising (you know for the plebes) without ever actually naming Bond! It could work!
This will iam sure drive the hardliners on the talkback mad.. by emeraldboy	Sep 4th, 2008 06:44:53 AM
but after two really dark and heavy batman movies. both very very good and Ledger was magnifico. How about a batman a little ligghter in tone. They shouldnt go down the schumacher again ever. how about a fun batman movie. or a bit of a mix. Dont make it so serious.
dead? by Judge Briggs	Sep 4th, 2008 06:55:38 AM
that would be so lame. Batman villains don't die.
Proper casting for Shadow of The Bat: by wowsah156	Sep 4th, 2008 06:59:17 AM
Selina Kyle, high class escort and The Cat's paw: Ellen Page (Juno/Hard Candy). But The Cat is a cameo towards the end of the movie. Edward Nygma: Military code breaker left for dead, betrayed by his black ops buddies. Now he's killing off high ranking arms industry employee's at Cobblepot Technology leaving behind clue's in 15 bit cipher code warning of a nuclear bomb being used in Gotham. :David Tennant Sub plot : Have Lady Shiva being sent to gotham to retrieve a stolen diamond necklace that The Cat's Paw stole from a mysterious industrialist who hid a microfilm in the heart of the diamond, which contains the formula for a supposed rejuvination chemical "cobras venom"...
Told you so by Laserhead	Sep 4th, 2008 07:16:59 AM
Hah!
It's not the director by Sirmausalot	Sep 4th, 2008 07:27:28 AM
When will you people remember that it is the writer who 'makes' the movie. Without the Nolans, it is likely to suck. And what did happen to the other half of the money The Joker stole? he had big PLANS for that. We were not supposed to get a mere sequel, but the second part of a complex storyline
EjkoUSC by TVguy4566	Sep 4th, 2008 07:48:22 AM
Bane may be more realist compared to other villians in the Batman universe, but Nolan's universe is totally based in the real world where there are no super steriod type of drugs that if you pump it in your veins gives you superhuman strength. There is no way his Venom drug fits in the Nolan Batman universe.
Joker Strategy Needed !!! by Dude_gimme_tabs	Sep 4th, 2008 08:03:16 AM
You know what. The emotion surrounding the very sad passing of Ledger needs to be set gently aside and a strategy is needed for the character to continue this franchise. If it was up to me to set the strategy, I would re-cast the Joker and I would re-cast him with an unknown. It's win-win. It's one hell of a break for an actor. If he succeeds then plaudits and roles will fall from the heavens. Heath's untimely demise will have been sidestepped for future films. If he fails then the studio, director, actor himself can all say "Ah well, Heath was a tough act to follow." and move on, parking the Joker in this franchise at least. They also have the flexibility to either have the new actor try and channel Ledger, or go in a new direction, maybe using time inside Arkham as an excuse to change the personality of the character somewhat but still within the terms of Nolan's established universe. As I said, it's a cold, hard, mean strategy but it's a strategy.
"This Confession Has Meant Nothing." by Stuntcock Mike	Sep 4th, 2008 08:05:38 AM
Wait and see.
Venom drug by Neosamurai85	Sep 4th, 2008 08:25:34 AM
While I agree the drug probably shouldn't be as over the top as it traditionally is, after that little episode with Batman's sonar that allows him to see EVERYTHING in Gotham... I think we are leaving the realm of immediate reality at this point anyway. Weather Venom is a variant of PCP, or even something new that Batman toys with in his effort to physically endure both Gotham's crime and police after him... it's not impossible. More so, I want Bane because as I understand him (granted I'm not a big reader of comics) he's never been done justice. He's intelligent, almost as vigilante as Batman, but also a villain. The Joker was all brains, Bane is both, and that combination makes him more than Batman can face. Hell, you could even start the film with a dead Joker as his calling card. Make him the hitman that the mob wanted all along. Someone that can break the bat. Interweave an intelligent Bane in a story line where Batman confronts (and perhaps is even attracted to) Catwoman, and what you get is three morally complicated characters that might not live up to TDK, but wouldn't be an easy letdown. Oh, and drugs means there's an excuse for more Scarecrow, which I think would make everybody happy.
Angelina Jolie = Destruction of franchise. by HoboCode	Sep 4th, 2008 08:28:24 AM
For the LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY don't make her Catwoman if there is another film.
I love it. by rev_skarekroe	Sep 4th, 2008 08:29:08 AM
Eckhart: No. I'm dead. I couldn't even get the words out of my mouth. "Hey, Chris, am I--?" "No. You're dead. You're dead. Fanboys: See? He's totally alive!
The next villain was in TDK: BAT MANUEL! by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 08:34:10 AM
C'mon, they had the fake Batmans at the beginning (and that one poor bastard later) and they had Carbonell. It all points to Bat Manuel being the baddie in the next movie.
Knightfall by DocRK	Sep 4th, 2008 08:38:32 AM
I agree with those suggesting Bane as the next villian and think it would be interesting for Nolan to loosely follows the Knightfall storyline. Just make Bane a highly trained merc whose physical skills exceed Batman. I'm not too crazy about the KnightsEnd storyline but parts of that could be taken as well.
Harvey/Two-Face by sirbroiler	Sep 4th, 2008 08:41:24 AM
I personally feel the movie missed the mark with the portrayal of Harvey/Two-Face and the deep emotional and psychological struggles that motivate his character in great Batman stories like Long Halloween. Don't get me wrong, Eckhart was good - but the character could have had a lot more depth. And...I don't think he's dead either. Taken to Arkham under the cover of darkness to protect his public image and it's positive impact on Gotham's citizens. He'll be back.
In all seriousness, how do we handle Bats in the next film? by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 08:41:44 AM
All this focusing on potential baddies ignores the end of TDK. Will Batman in 3 be "on the run" the whole time, or will it open with Gordon trying to bring Batman back to the side of angels to help deal with the newest threat? Honestly, I think we can stick with three-side vibe in the third film without adding a second villain: Batman vs Gotham (exemplified by Gordon) vs The Riddler. The Riddler is criming, both Batman and Gordon are trying to stop him while the former avoids the latter. It would essentially be a stealth film. And of course, the big action sequence midway through the film would be Batman getting captured and his identity revealed to Gordon. As for the Riddler, I reiterate my earlier position that he should be played as dour and devoid of humor as possible; when he's in the room, the temperature should feel like it's dropped 10 degrees. There should be no uneasy laughter from the audience like with the Joker; instead, uncomfortable silence. Methodical, precise, and so damn smart he needs to announce it to everybody.
Gary Oldman's performance by Belasco_House	Sep 4th, 2008 08:42:25 AM
seems rarely mentioned, but I think he was superb in BB and TDK. I love the character of Gordon, weary yet determined
Avatar = flopping in 2009 by Sithdan	Sep 4th, 2008 08:43:58 AM
Kerplunk! Like a piece of shit splashing in a toilet bowl. Cameron is washed up and will suffer the same Internet backlash as George Lucas, Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer.
Aaron Eckhart wants Two-Face to stay dead... by Leafar the Lost	Sep 4th, 2008 08:44:25 AM
...so he can play Captain America. He would be perfect for it, and he knows it. Also, he has a boner for Angelina Jolie. I know, what straight male in the world doesn't want to screw her, but he actually has a chance with her. Her marriage status with Brad is not a factor...
He said "TO BLAAAATHE", and as we all know... by jackietheblade	Sep 4th, 2008 08:45:21 AM
someone had to say it.
Robin by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 08:46:21 AM
I'd very much like to see a gritty Robin at some point, perhaps introduced slowly but surely. He will never be an official partner, but wearing the latest version of the Robin costume from the comics (which is pretty cool, all dark red n black, see below) as if it was his circus attire and just does some sick acrobatic ish. No special armor or anything. He jumps into the mix during an end-of-movie battle and saves Batman at one point. He should be like 16. Awesome. http://media.comicvine.com/upl oads/0/308/166230-106224-robin _large.jpg
IndoorPlumbing: There's no point to Robin by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 08:48:40 AM
Unless you do something like Knightsfall where Batman is sidelined. Sidekicks exist in comic books to get young readers (who mentally place themselves in the orphan/ward's shoes) to read it. In a two-hour movie, the sidekick is not necessary at all. Besides, Batman already has two sidekicks in Alfred and Lucius Fox, he doesn't need a third.
Nolan put all his eggs in one basket. by DEX	Sep 4th, 2008 08:49:14 AM
Everyone should relax. As conceived, Two-Face is dead - the shooting script says so explicitly (it says something like "Harvey breaks his neck and is dead"). That being said, in the history of comics and genre projects - characters can always come back. I read an interview with Nolan that with the Dark Knight, he didn't want to assume that it would be a hit and that there would be future movies, so he put everything he could into it. I'm sure he can always change his mind about Two-Face if he wants to do another (he couldn't have forseen that Heath would die). Personally, I'm fine with it if the Two-Face story is finished - it was satisfying. On a side note, these people that say there shouldn't be a 3rd movie are full of crap. It's just a way for haters to continue hating on something. If Nolan wants to do a 3rd movie, hell yeah, let him try and top the Dark Knight!
Next Batman movie by Belasco_House	Sep 4th, 2008 08:50:14 AM
shouldnt feature Bruce Wayne at all, and 'The Batman' should be merely a shadowy supporting role, like Keyser Soze. Other characters are far more interesting
The 3rd movie will have Catwoman, but I think... by Leafar the Lost	Sep 4th, 2008 08:53:44 AM
...that it should be Megan Fox. Why? Because she is insanely hot, and she knows the basics of acting. Also, lets bring in a dark Robin. Make him a drug addicted, punkish orphan that Batman tries to reform.
Robin isn't NECESSARY; but he could be INTERESTING by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 08:57:14 AM
Visually he could be very cool, in Nolan's hands, that is. He def isn't needed, I agree with that. But visually he could be pretty intriguing.
David Hyde Pierce = Riddler by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 09:03:06 AM
Anyone?
If it's Nolan, probably no Robin or Catwoman, however by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 09:03:48 AM
with Robin, we need to consider his place vis-a-vis Batman being on the run (I'm wondering if I imagined the end of the movie since no one else seems to be considering this). Then we're looking at a potential V for Vendetta riff.
David Hyde Pierce: Not dour enough by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 09:11:33 AM
A younger Joel Grey would've been perfect.
I love how this is just driving fanboys nuts by terry1978	Sep 4th, 2008 09:12:35 AM
Nolan was God as of late, now that it's being considered that he's not only not bringing back Two-Face, nor making another one, suddenly the mob gets nasty. Fickle group, we are.
A younger (and more alive) Anthony Perkins would've by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 09:13:59 AM
been perfect too. I really can't think of anyone who would work out nowadays for what I'm imagining.
Worst character and actor evar by RogueWarrior65	Sep 4th, 2008 09:14:56 AM
Bleah. Boring. Clichéd. Next.
Please..No Fucking Catwoman... by conspiracy	Sep 4th, 2008 09:16:17 AM
The character has always been nothing but a sexual foil for Batman, but she was never a dark or particularly "bad" and dangerous character. Sure nerds would pay to see Jolie purr and slink around; and the Batman character would have to reassess his narrow minded view on "criminals" and what makes them tick when he bedded her...but that would simply not be a compelling tale on its own, certainly not material that would allow a story to compete with Dark Knight. Besides...didn't Nolan and Co. already say no Penguin or Catwoman?
The problem is they make Catwoman too much like by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 09:20:42 AM
Black Cat (who is pretty much a take on the TV Show Catwoman). If they made a Catwoman that wasn't played that way, it could be interesting.
Anyone else hate TDK? by Beezbo	Sep 4th, 2008 09:22:10 AM
I'm amazed how few people on these talkbacks dislike TDK. Most of my friends didn't like it - we must be really out of touch! While some talkbackers agree that it's not the greatest film ever made, I haven't read one comment in which someone admits to hating it as much as I did. I feel so alone...
Leafar the Lost... by conspiracy	Sep 4th, 2008 09:25:54 AM
the only thing Megan Fox is good for is eye candy, and perhaps an amusing distraction for the director/producer; she has zero skills from what little we've seen. She will be doing DTV and Skinamax before she is 30 unless she gets smart and does a Connelly; disappearing from Hollywood for 5-6 years to actually learn how to act and not just show skin.
Beezbo: You ARE alone by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 09:26:21 AM
TDK was phenomenal. In fact, this talkback makes me want to go see it again. And BTW, I loathed Batman Begins. So I'm not one of the ridiculous fanboys. TDK just hit all the right notes with me.
Beezbo by HoboCode	Sep 4th, 2008 09:26:49 AM
Yep. It's just you and your friends. Sorry dude.
Sorry Beexbo by sambrook	Sep 4th, 2008 09:27:59 AM
I loved it. Which surprised me as I always felt like an outsider for not thinking Begins was the amazing film most fanboys thought it to be. There were flaws aplenty in there that most ignored. But The Dark Knight felt like one big epic, a huge story bolstered by great characterizations and pitch-perfect performances filmed with effortless style and flair. It really surprised me.
The Riddler looks like this...creepy, intelligent, smug: by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 09:30:42 AM
http://images.teamsugar.com/fi les/users/0/88/22_2007/DavidHy de_JimS_14064402_400.jpg
Or... by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 09:31:15 AM
Casey Affleck, giant question mark tattoo on back, very menacing: http://www.clickthecity.com/im g2/articles/CTC-2449-image4.jp g
Casey Affleck might not be a bad choice by chrth	Sep 4th, 2008 09:34:26 AM
As long as he doesn't come off as a punk.
They could've done more with him! by Anna Valerious	Sep 4th, 2008 09:43:03 AM
I think killing him off too soon was a waste. I'm not sure about recasting the Joker... But I'm behind David Tennant as the Riddler 100%.
Truth be told... by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 09:45:55 AM
It should be Penguin running a takeover of Gotham in some way and hires the Riddler to keep the cops and Batman distracted. While this goes on Catwoman could emerge as her own entity, realizing Police are distracted and on her own decides to just begin burglarizing, not having anything to do with Penguin or Riddler. There you have it, Mr. Nolan! Oh, and Evangeline Lily for Catwoman obviously.
Dude_gimme_tabs by Dude_gimme_tabs	Sep 4th, 2008 10:02:08 AM
Either way, Joker has to be in it somewhere. Even if in a cell in the shadows at Arkham.
Burgundy, Batman didn't necessarily kill him. by Lenny Nero	Sep 4th, 2008 10:19:31 AM
But to paraphrase him from the first him, he didn't save him either.
Lay off the Detrimental Dude by Herb West	Sep 4th, 2008 10:22:25 AM
He just learned that word and tried to use it in a sentence. Give him a break.
Robin by arby64	Sep 4th, 2008 10:26:20 AM
I think they can introduce Dick Grayson without introducing Robin have him be taken in after family dying and find out about Batman but not go out fighting with him.
id like to see the joker back....and the riddler by fartedinthefaceofhollywood	Sep 4th, 2008 10:34:00 AM
id like to see the joker come back and id like to see the riddler as well. it would be neet to have a silence of the lambs approach where here is this Riddler guy, stirring all kinds a shit up possibly knowing the identity of batman and batman must enlist the help of the joker (through the use of interviews and interrogations) to find this crime genius, you know....the whole "using a villain to catch a villain" approach...there is ALOT they could do with something like that, should they think about it and think of a complex way to go about it. id love to see the joker in a dark room, answering batmans question but mindfucking him in the process....a la Hannibal Lecter.....then again, thats a TOTALLY unoriginal (but cool) way of looking at it.
Batman 3 will happen! by Azlam Orlandu	Sep 4th, 2008 10:35:03 AM
I hear what everyone is saying about how content they would be if it didn't come to pass. But the Warners are making too much cash and there's too much of a fanbase for it not to "make for rolling" forward. That one's for you Gorb!
Silence of the Lambs would be the way to go by sambrook	Sep 4th, 2008 10:36:17 AM
Before Heath's death there was talk about the Joker coming back and I read in intervews that, if he did, it would be in a small, Lecter-type cameo.
This is such stupid logic... by hollywoodsummers	Sep 4th, 2008 10:52:48 AM
considering earlier in the film Batman drops Eric Roberts from about the same height saying he knows it won't kill him. If they wanted to really kill Two Face they should have impailed him on something or at least shown some blood coming out his mouth. But I guess there were a bunch of things about the last 30 min of the film that were kinda lame. Still loved Heath though, sad he's not coming back.
Arkham Asylum, only ending that makes sense. by TheBLIGHT	Sep 4th, 2008 10:59:22 AM
Harvey breaks out Hannibal style, show a CG's Joker clip from TDK ala The Crow (Brandon Lee) in a quick clip via a cell window in the Asylum, so the audience 'gets' were the Joker disappeared to, and bring on Catwoman, Riddler, Bane, whatever/whoever... but, pleas never Hush, uhhg.
re: Beezbo by _Maltheus_	Sep 4th, 2008 10:59:36 AM
While I wouldn't say I hated it, I am in shock about how much people loved it. It was a very uneven movie and all the Harvey Dent stuff seemed tacked on and quickly had me looking at my watch, waiting for the movie to end. I thought Batman Begins was so much better (while a bit overrated itself). Even the Keaton movie was better IMO. I'd rank TDK as a distant 3rd. As for comic book movies overall, the first two X-Men and Spiderman movies still rule the coop. That makes me either unsophisticated or unpretentious I guess.
The series isn't complete without another... by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 11:02:40 AM
Don't you people want there to be some kind of fruition, some kind of resolution, some kind of closure? Batman is on the lamb. Gotham is still a mess. The series needs closure, and a third film is necessary. Also, don't say you can't top this one so don't make another; when it comes down to it, it's a movie, so even if it's not as good it could still be great and fun and entertaining.
Topping TDK is unnecessary by mukhtabi	Sep 4th, 2008 11:15:05 AM
What must happen is the third installment of Batman must MATCH or come close to the intensely dramatic storyline. A third installment should happen, everything film occurs in threes; just a naturally organic number. The real question is who should direct the third one? I would love to see Nolan come back for one last hurrah. That would be closure allrighty.
It's a matter of math. A simple equation, really... by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 11:19:57 AM
Nolan + http://media.comicvine.com/upl oads/0/3133/107007-144107-tim- drake_large.jpg
Miller does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	Sep 4th, 2008 11:31:19 AM
Yes it would be a crime if Nolan were not to wrap up his Batman saga with a 'final' part. The practicalities of the matter, with some of the veteran cast members not getting any younger, would suggest that sooner rather than later would be better. As others have suggested I'd also like to see him loosely adapt Frank Miller's THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS, and again that would make huge practical sense for Warner Bros as having a title that very much follows on from TDK. The comic's central theme of 'One last hurrah for a hero whose time has passed' would fit in well with the ending of TDK and also seems like the kind of material that Nolan and co. are drawn to.
If doing the Riddler... by IndoorPlumbing	Sep 4th, 2008 11:59:19 AM
He should be like this: http://www.geocities.com

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