Home Cool News Coaxial Reviews Zone Chat Contact Us Sign in

Talkbacks

This talkback.....
by Fuckles
Oct 13th, 2008
10:42:55 PM
....is going to get ugly real quick. That said, looking forward to seeing this on Friday.
W
by BlackIronPrison
Oct 13th, 2008
10:44:14 PM
Whataguy...
It better be as good as you say.
by Maxer
Oct 13th, 2008
10:46:26 PM
As long as it doesn't roll too liberal, it should meet a wide audience in 27% approval America.
Liberal Revenge?
by Banzai Rootskibango
Oct 13th, 2008
10:47:37 PM
Harry, thanks for helping me avoid this stupid shit. I'll donate the $10 to McCain's campaign.

Lord knows he needs it.

Well who doesn't like an aborted fetus
by Vindibudd
Oct 13th, 2008
10:49:11 PM
who has a D after their name?
Harry. Just say no to politics.
by ALLENGUINDON
Oct 13th, 2008
10:49:16 PM
Hai guys, I trust this review!
by Frisco
Oct 13th, 2008
10:52:55 PM
Thanks for the review, Harry. You've told me all I need to know.
continued
by ALLENGUINDON
Oct 13th, 2008
10:53:35 PM
Harry, I don't think you would ever say that George Bush is fascinating to you if you had never seen this movie. It's fashionable to hate Bush. The easy thing to do is hate Bush. You say uninformed things about him. You're 36. I'm 35. Even I know that Carter was the worst president in our lifetime. Not W. You're boring and predictable when it comes to politics. You don't do the subject justice.
Let me now predict how half this TB will respond...
by Jobacca
Oct 13th, 2008
10:53:51 PM
I HAVENT SEEN THIS MOVIE BUT IT IS A TRAITOROUS PEACE OF SHIT!!! GEORGE W WUZ THE GREATEST PRISIDENT EVER CAUS HE SAVED US FRUM THE TERRORISTS AND FREED EYERACK! I HATE QUEERBOYS BUTT I WOULD GLADLY SUCKLE AT THE COCK OF PRESIDENT BUSH,BILL ORILLY,OR TOBY KEITH. GOD BLESS AND GOOD NITE!
John Sidney McCain: The Story of a Middle Name...
by earthlingdave
Oct 13th, 2008
10:58:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =d7VS8dg6mWE Let's go viral! Haha.
Talkback preview: Blah blah blah! I love Republicans! I love Dem
by TallBoy66
Oct 13th, 2008
10:59:57 PM
God, shut up all of you. Stop it.
Very excited to see this
by Detective_Fingerling
Oct 13th, 2008
11:01:50 PM
and I'm a Bush hating, Clinton & Obama loving dem. I have no idea what I'm going to think or feel during or after this movie, but it intrigues me so.
Anyone who claims a sitting president is the worst...
by Sakurai
Oct 13th, 2008
11:03:10 PM
president ever, clearly has political motivations. Harry you don't even know all the previous presidents of the United States. Your lack of insight is showing.
WOW
by kjl451
Oct 13th, 2008
11:04:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =I91NpKkhjuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I 91NpKkhjuY
by kjl451
Oct 13th, 2008
11:04:25 PM
awesome
HEY HARRY, A QUESTION:
by DavidDunn
Oct 13th, 2008
11:05:32 PM
How is your health now-a-days? I havn't seen an update in a long time and was wondering how the post-op Harry is and how the exercising is going... Funny thing though, I was not that enthused about this movie for the longest time but in the past month or so I have been dying to watch it.
For the record....
by Jobacca
Oct 13th, 2008
11:05:44 PM
Heres is a list of the workst presidents ever. #1 is CLEARLY George W. Bush.#2 is Lyndon Johnson and the #3 worst president of all time is Jimmy Carter-although in accordance with the laws pertaining to Simpsons humor he will still be referred to as "Historys Greatest Monster"
Been looking forward to this for a long time...
by Gungan Slayer
Oct 13th, 2008
11:07:42 PM
Can't wait to see it this weekend. That being said...prepare for ultra destruct mode in the talkbacks. Shit's going to hit the fans....like now...lol
W got the country ready for O
by antonphd
Oct 13th, 2008
11:09:35 PM
For that I am thankful to him. Otherwise, he's what I think of as the result of millions of idiots who didn't think voting mattered.
Sakurai
by antonphd
Oct 13th, 2008
11:10:58 PM
W is lucky if the country doesn't completely flush down the toilet in the next 100 days. If that isn't a measure of his presidency, then I don't know what is.
BANZAI
by HEADGEEK
Oct 13th, 2008
11:13:39 PM
If you could read, you'd find that IT ISN'T LIBERAL REVENGE
kjl451
by unkempt_sock
Oct 13th, 2008
11:14:11 PM
stupid fucking video
nice harry
by unkempt_sock
Oct 13th, 2008
11:14:59 PM
tell the fucker who's boos
Double-Who?
by Darthkrusty
Oct 13th, 2008
11:15:39 PM
Sakurai
by HEADGEEK
Oct 13th, 2008
11:16:50 PM
Again, I didn't say he was the worst in history, I said that he could arguably be. That means, you could make the argument. Ultimately HISTORY will decide, not me.
Perfect song in the trailer by the talking heads
by Stormwatcher
Oct 13th, 2008
11:19:51 PM
Nailed W with that.
Harry...
by RorschachTest
Oct 13th, 2008
11:23:10 PM
Yo Harry, I don't know if this is part of your reach. But is there ANY way in hell, us folks in Australia can get to see 'W' before Fenruary of next year without buying a damn ticket to the States or downloading a bootleg? Why should we have to wait so damn long?
Harry, you know about 90% of this is fiction, right?
by Riley Martin
Oct 13th, 2008
11:23:51 PM
It's a dramatized story of his life, with some known facts peppered through the story. Just like Nixon & JFK.
Thandie
by blakindigo
Oct 13th, 2008
11:29:19 PM
Never understood your pov on Thandie Newton. Always felt the 'Beloved' review was flawed based on your opinion of her performance. After 'Crash' and 'RocknRolla' she seems to get much respect. Your review here suggests she nailed Conde's persona. Has your view changed?
It's just a movie.
by Amy Chasing
Oct 13th, 2008
11:29:41 PM
Well. It is. Isn't it?
Going to a screening of this tomorrow...
by Kampbell-Kid
Oct 13th, 2008
11:36:59 PM
Thanks Harry! Might send in my thoughts.
worst evers...
by Dollar Bird
Oct 13th, 2008
11:37:33 PM
Hmm ... lessee ... who could we say was the worst US president ever? We got Franklin Pierce who was a raging alcoholic. James Buchanan who essentially let the nation be torn apart and fall into the Civil War. Then there's Warren G. Harding who slept with a zillion women and also had the Teapot Dome scandal (for which, my 7th grade self curses him. I hated memorizing that boring piece of history.). Let's face it: Ulysses S. Grant was a stooge. Nixon is hated by many, but I liked his movie (wait, that was Oliver Stone, too!). Andrew Jackson was an asshole. Personally, I think GWB's reign has been pretty horrendous, so I'd slap him on the list, too. The sad thing is, two of those guys we have on our money. What up, nation?!!
So Stone thinks people will pay to see W.?
by Orbots Commander
Oct 13th, 2008
11:38:48 PM
What's he smoking? Conservatives won't see this no matter what, and those of left of center don't want to sit through a movie about a President they don't like. So Stone just basically made this for himself and his friends. Yawn. There's nothing more boring than a political screed dressed up as a movie.
Ah, politics
by Chaka!
Oct 13th, 2008
11:43:11 PM
People will take what they will from politics. Some people will quickly point out how W is the worst prez ever. Others will be quick to defend him. Point is, why bother voicing either side if there's zero chance of changing someone else's mind? I could sit here and saw GW Bush is the worst president in history. If you don't agree, how can I possibly change your mind in a message board? Here's the thing: There's a movie coming out on Friday that sounds like it can be fun. The rest of the banter should just be put to rest. As for those who don't like when Harry posts political opinion. Get your own damn site and stop trying to tell him what to post on his
Harry harry Harry...
by macheesmo3
Oct 13th, 2008
11:43:30 PM
I am a Goldwater conservative( in other words i don't like the neo-cons either , I think they are psuedo-cons) i was digging your review until you resorted to making fun how people look. In my 35 years of life it's one thing I hear liberals do a lot about the GOP. It really diminishes any argument you may have and is just a cheap shot. Plus , Laura Bush looks like a friends really nice mom who works at the library! Lay off the physical attacks and speak yer peace!
As someone who voted for him in 2004,
by Kid Idioteque
Oct 13th, 2008
11:43:54 PM
I'm quite looking forward to this. W has let me down in many ways (and been one of the few presidents to completely alienate both sides of the aisle) but I'm always interested in engaging personal stories. It sounds like a very fair portrait of the man. I hope it's as good as you claim, Harry.
As someone who voted for him in 2004,
by Kid Idioteque
Oct 13th, 2008
11:45:56 PM
I'm quite looking forward to this. W has let me down in many ways (and been one of the few presidents to completely alienate both sides of the aisle) but I'm always interested in engaging personal stories. It sounds like a very fair portrait of the man. I hope it's as good as you claim, Harry.
Harry comparing thhis to ED WOOD..
by superzero
Oct 13th, 2008
11:49:41 PM
Dude, you TOTALLY stole that comparison from me!!! Ha. Yesterday I told a friend that I thought, and hope, that W. would be more in the vein of ED WOOD than Nixon or even Strangelove...btw Harry I just got laid off, need a writer for writing's sake???
George W. Bush personally called me an "asshole"
by KnightShift
Oct 13th, 2008
11:52:50 PM
It happened one month before the 2000 election.

I've come to be downright proud of having been called that by him, in retrospect :-)

Knightshift
by odo19
Oct 13th, 2008
11:54:01 PM
How did that happen?
DOLLAR BIRD:
by superzero
Oct 13th, 2008
11:54:28 PM
4got to comment on the "worst Prez ever" thing. Glad to see someone mentioned Buchanan. He's from my hometown, Lancaster Pa, and he is prob the worst. Jackson may have been an asshole but he ACCOMPLISHED quite a bit. Other than that, I concur. Sorry for two talkbacks in a row.
antonphd
by slkboxrman
Oct 13th, 2008
11:56:31 PM
O ? OPRAH ? i didnt know she was running for president...but if she did she could offer every american a free car or something if she got elected...if O was for OBAMA, ur seriously smoking.....ive said it before and ill say it again..this country will never elect a black man to the presidency....at least not in our lifetimes...so W is gettin us ready for M
HEADGEEK...
by Banzai Rootskibango
Oct 13th, 2008
11:59:15 PM
...It may have said that it "isn't a film about liberal revenge," but the rest of the review paints exactly that...liberal revenge.

Maybe it's just Harry's bias getting in the way...whatever it is...it's a Netflixer for me.

odo19: Here's da story...
by KnightShift
Oct 14th, 2008
12:09:21 AM
I was a reporter with a small, independent newspaper and I had an invitation to the Republican rally before the Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University.

Bush found out about my being there along with another reporter, and he didn't like it that we were with non-corporate media. You could say that both of our news outlets were "alternative" even though there's a bit of a negative connotation to that term. I can vouch that the outfit I was with certainly had a rep for hard-nosed investigative journalism, but that wasn't why I was there. I got an invitation courtesy of a Republican official who was glad to have me there.

Then Bush found out we were there and apparently didn't want unquantifiable reporters who might possibly ask him really hard questions. I heard later that his words were "haul those assholes out of here". One of his goons confronted me, asked for my invite and tore it to pieces. He threatened me with violent reprisal unless I left, and the other reporter and I were soon escorted off the premises at gunpoint (courtesy of the local gendarmerie, on orders from the Bush Campaign goon squad).

That night opened my eyes. I told people beginning then that this country would not resemble anything we had come to know, if Bush became President. Eight years later, it saddens me that that estimation was spot-on.

For what it's worth, I'm non-partisan to the extreme. And I don't have a dog in this year's hunt either. Not one of the major parties has demonstrated that they are after anything but power. And having not only voted since I was first eligible but also having run for office and been the treasurer of a state-wide campaign, I think I'm more than qualified to make that observation. But what Bush has done in the past eight years, has been far and away the most irresponsible administration in living American memory.

odo19: Here's a campaign commercial I made too...
by KnightShift
Oct 14th, 2008
12:12:52 AM
http://tinyurl.com/2a4mzw

Mi ght have been the first time in history that anyone ran for school board by using the Death Star :-P

ED WOOD?
by the beef
Oct 14th, 2008
12:13:41 AM
Fuck that. Bush is the Ratner of presidencies. Let's get a Brett Ratner biopic. I vote Jonah Hill to play Ratner.
Why not go the whole hog:
by Amy Chasing
Oct 14th, 2008
12:19:03 AM
Uwe Boll: The Boxing Biopic
MCCAIN today FINALLY admits BUSH did a bad job
by zooch
Oct 14th, 2008
12:38:39 AM
About a year too short! Did he just now realize it? Just like how he thought the economy was strong on the day of one of the biggest economic crash. Seriously the man is REALLY out of touch.
Surprising...
by budzrig
Oct 14th, 2008
12:51:14 AM
Ollie with his hand up Harry, moving his lips...
W of the Living Dead
by Darthkrusty
Oct 14th, 2008
12:51:24 AM
I hope Mr. Stone directs WS2.
slkboxrman
by antonphd
Oct 14th, 2008
12:56:19 AM
Nah. Racism is about money. Racists will hate for money and steal for money and they sure as hell will vote for money. Racists come in all financial classes. 95% of racists get lower taxes for voting for Obama. Obama is going to win in a landslide and they are going to be calling it the "Obama effect" when a black man wins far more than he polls for because of the racists who won't admit they will vote for him in public, but pull that level for lower taxes in the booth.
Fuck Bush. That being said.....
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Oct 14th, 2008
01:00:26 AM
I am looking forward to this movie. And god help us if McCain/Palin win. Might as well kiss your ass goodbye right now.
Hustling up some cattle Harry? really?
by kungfuhustler84
Oct 14th, 2008
01:05:52 AM
Can we see pictures! I'll bet you looked so cute in your chaps and your hat and your widdle boots!

I'm not joking or trying to be snide. I am just seriously curious to see if there is any media capturing such a time in your life. And if so, PLEASE SHOW US!

Zooch.....get some facts
by Your Moms Box
Oct 14th, 2008
01:06:03 AM
McCain is affiliated with Bush through party. He has never endorsed the man as being a good president. As a matter if fact, McCain has rarely agreed with anything the Bush administration does. McCain, if you recall, was one of the FIRST to call for the firing of Donald Rumsfeld, a move that almost got him exiled from his own party. Fast forward a few years later and who gets canned? Rumsfeld. And Knowles, I stopped reading your "review" once you proclaimed "I still see the coke-snorting alcoholic Frat Rat that he was in his youth".....as though you went to fucking college with the man and have witnessed first hand all of his demons and problems. Hey fat tits, how many times did you see the president snort coke????? I'll bet its not nearly as many as the times you've been seen snorting powdered sugar, you elitist fatso.
I am more excited for Harry's cowboy pics
by kungfuhustler84
Oct 14th, 2008
01:07:10 AM
than this movie. Talk about capitalizing on the times. His presidency isn't even over yet.

I'm sure I will see it eventually but it kind of bugs me how much this just seems like a cash grab.

Carbon Footprint?
by p0llk4t
Oct 14th, 2008
01:08:51 AM
What's the carbon footprint of this total waste of film? They probably could have saved a couple of hundred kids from starvation with the catering budget alone.

What's my point?

Stone should have donated the money to Obama rather than waste valuable resources on this Bush-Hater spank-bank film that almost no one will see.

NO ONE gives a fuck about what made Bush the complete fuck-up that he is. NO ONE wants to relive any of the moments of Bush's life or presidency.
NO ONE EXCEPT the rabid-Bush-Hating-one-note dick riders who salivate over every nasty-bush-is-a-baby-rapist article that they can find. Mental masturbation for those obsessed with hating Bush and blaming him for every ill and wrong in the world.

Why was this film made? It's not important, necessary, enlightening, meaningful, or insightful. Was it just so Bush-haters can say "Yeah, he's an idiot and I hate him...but I can see why you'd have a beer with him." WTF
I want to see this film.
by Amy Chasing
Oct 14th, 2008
01:14:17 AM
I know many people who don't, but I still think the performances and film-making standards will be pretty damn high. It's an Oliver Stone film for fuck sake! If you like the man's art, you watch it no matter what it's about.
Bye till November...
by leisuredrummer
Oct 14th, 2008
01:19:42 AM
Seriously...I cant stand this shit. Nobody gives a flying fuck about your political views. You just alienate a big portion of your audiece when you say shit like this. Ill be reading my reviews elsewhere for a bit.
Know the difference between W. Bush and Sarah Palin?
by TopHat
Oct 14th, 2008
01:26:59 AM
...lipstick. If this has proven anything its that people sure do love ignorance, especially if its coming from a pretty face and/or born-again Christian. Oh, and the real reason Banks was cast as Laura? Because Stone, like much of Hollywood and America, has taken up the belief that women are so much better than men, that they are beautiful perfect angels for having to "put up" with them, and thus, excluded from any kind of criticism ...like being so unbelievably stupid to marry a spoiled Texas moron and sitting back WATCHING him destroy the country with a vacant smile on your face.
Was there any doubt...
by Hellboy4Prez
Oct 14th, 2008
01:34:57 AM
that Harry was going to love this movie and than feel the need to squirt his man juice on Brolin. This movie could have been directed by Uwe Boll and Harry would have loved it like he loves 70s Asian porn. As far as the elction, we're screwed either way. Barack is about as patriotic as Benedict Arnold and McCain has one foot on a banana peel and the other in the grave.
A bit off-topic, but I'm checking out YouTube footage
by juice willis
Oct 14th, 2008
01:44:22 AM
...of some recent McCain/Palin rallies in Ohio and rural Pennsylvania and it is some decidedly disturbing shit. Listen to some of these fuckers. Straight up uninformed, racist, fat-bodies. It's unbelievable how oblivious they seem to the harm they're doing to their own ticket.
Bush...
by waldo
Oct 14th, 2008
01:47:37 AM
Is much worse then Nixon in my opinion. Carter was in over his head from the very beginning,but worse than Bush? In my lifetime (37 yrs), Carter is the only president who walked the walk when it came to his faith. I'm agnostic myself, but I always respected the way he truly seemed to believe in his God. It's so ironic that the republicans continue to trash a man, who was trying to lead this nation as a true christian as weak, when all they talk about these days is how buddy buddy they are with Jesus. I think all presidents should be Agnostic. Religion tends to cloud the mind, and Bush is one cloudy sumbitch!
Riley Martin, actually this film is mostly factual...
by BadMrWonka
Oct 14th, 2008
01:53:17 AM
actually, it's not 90% made up. (ironically, you just made that up, didn't you?) it's culled from a lot of memoirs, with mostly just locations and smaller things changed for the sake of brevity and clarity in the script.

read for yourself:

http://tinyurl.com/54cs8c

Your moms box
by zooch
Oct 14th, 2008
01:56:29 AM
He's endorsed Bush, campaigned for him, and accepted Bush's endorsement. When is the last time you've heard him talk about what he disagrees with the Bush administration specifically? He never actually said Bush was doing a poor job at running the country, until today, now that he's deperately behind. But we're now buying anything he's selling anymore. He's not the maverick we once knew. He needs to go back to being that guy, it suited him better, and not be President. That's the best thing he could do at this point.
What do people know about Wilson....
by eXcommunicated
Oct 14th, 2008
01:57:13 AM
...other than "League of Nations!" or "WWI!"? Woodrow Wilson was a douchebag of the highest order. He sold out every man woman and child in America (and soon to be the world) to the bankers when he pushed for and signed the Federal Reserve Act. Secondly, he sent thousands of young American boys to their deaths in shithole Central American countries to prop up corporate interests and tin-pot dictators. Thirdly, he opposed women's suffrage until the day he was forced to sign it into law by Congress and the public. He was one of the original cockbag imperial "unitary" executives. "Worst President in History" is a small, but distinguished list. Don't be too quick throw W to the bottom. He's close, sure, but others, like Jackson, Buchanan, Johnson, Nixon, or Grant were just as bad in their own ways and in their own times. Some were incompetent, some were nefarious, some got lots of people killed needlessly, and some were all three.
Too bad no one will care enough to see this
by Pissed Off And Bitter
Oct 14th, 2008
02:19:34 AM
Idiots voted the guy in and helped fuck up the country, I don't think they want to make it number one at the box office. Hell, if you voted for this guy I don't think you have any real cerebral intellect anyway. Knock yourself out.
Palin is Bush with a Bush
by drturing
Oct 14th, 2008
02:28:25 AM
A governor, a canny, shrewd manipulator with a mean streak who practices politics of division while appearing to be a down home folksy person behind a facade of ignorance and lack of intellectual curiosity. Also, a puppet for the people really running the Republican party these days.

As Patton Oswalt says, Bush fans are like Creed fans. At this point there's just no defense, it's just embarassing.

Oh and BTW, where was Bush when Katrina hit? Oh that's right, eating cake with John McCain.

juice willis
by zooch
Oct 14th, 2008
02:32:42 AM
You are right. It's those oblivious, disturbing, uninformed, racist, fat-bodies at the McCain/Palin rallys that are driving undecided voters away.
The McCain/Palin mob youtube video
by zooch
Oct 14th, 2008
02:34:37 AM
http://tinyurl.com/3hhwyv
Ed Wood Jr
by Prossor
Oct 14th, 2008
02:46:43 AM
Ed Wood should and did hold that camera, and his own unique quirks and knacks, the weird singularity of his movies and himself, i wouldn't have them any other way.
Wow, Harry liked it!
by MANZILLA
Oct 14th, 2008
02:53:06 AM
What a fucking surprise. Due to the subject matter Harry would have loved it if Uwe Boll directed it.
You always tell that story KnightShift
by Orionsangels
Oct 14th, 2008
02:57:05 AM
I don't care either way. It's just interesting to me how you always mention that in a political thread.
It's too bad Stone didn't wait...
by polyh3dron
Oct 14th, 2008
02:59:07 AM
He could have included this final chapter with the whole global economy finally collapsing where W comes to his senses and goes against everything his administration had previously stood for in terms of economics in an attempt to fix it.
Oh and this economy thing:
by polyh3dron
Oct 14th, 2008
03:00:09 AM
It DEFINITELY cements Bush's "Worst. Prez. EVAR" title.
Carter
by Blok Narpin
Oct 14th, 2008
03:00:13 AM
"I’m on record of feeling that George W Bush is definitely the worst President of my 36 year life time and arguably the worst in American History. ". No. Jimmy Carter. Bush is Abe Lincoln compared to the complete failure that was the Carter administration.
Nobama.
by Blok Narpin
Oct 14th, 2008
03:01:45 AM
"You are right. It's those oblivious, disturbing, uninformed, racist, fat-bodies at the McCain/Palin rallys that are driving undecided voters away." Sorry, but all the disturbing, uninformed, racist, fat-bodies are backing Obama.
Bush IS the worst president of your lifetime...
by WhinyNegativeBitch
Oct 14th, 2008
03:41:53 AM
...Carter does not remotely compare. You have to go all the way back to James Buchanan. Carter didn't even land you in a quagmire waste of life and resources war like Iraq. Also, while failing to handle an economic crisis, he didn't cause it like Bush. Not that being "not as bad as Bush" is a ringing endoresement or anything.
Brolin for Oscar? Will have to wait and see an that one.
by GQtaste
Oct 14th, 2008
03:43:28 AM
I'd like to make a big bet w/ you Harry on that one. Even if Brolins great in the role.
I'm a Republican and I can't wait to see this
by StraightToHell
Oct 14th, 2008
03:53:52 AM
And before Dems start to unload on me, let me preface by stating that even though I voted for Bush in 2004, I do agree with Vincent Bugliosi's book Prosecuting GWB for Murder. While I have zero compassion for any of the terrorists who are compelled to murder women and children just because God told them to (and please no "We did it to them first" bullshit; listen and read speeches by imams all over the world where they proclaim death to all who do not believe in Islam) and love it when we give them some of their own medicine, I do agree that the whole Iraq war was a bunch of shit and that Bush did start the war with Iraq by making shit up. Bugliosi makes a coherent and fact-checked argument for this and I am not partisan enough to not agree with him when the facts speak for themselves. That being said, while Stone can be utterly insane when it comes to making a historical film where reality does not jibe with anything he throws at the screen (sorry, there was NO CONSPIRACY to kill JFK, again Bugliosi makes an insanely exhaustive argument for this in his bible-like study), I think that his Nixon is a brilliant, brilliant film. For all the talk about slander and liber slant, I think Nixon is a compassionate and deeply moving film about a man who had greatness in him but lost it all when his demons overtook him. I think Stone (and this is reflected in his commentary for the movie) really felt sorry for Nixon and did not see him as a demonic, cardboard figure to ridicule and spit on. Some of the facts are off in Nixon, but I really do love the movie as a tragic character study. And W looks to be in the same vein. Granted, W is far from being a tragic character, and he is much too relaxed and easygoing to make for a compelling enigmatic figure that Nixon was, but his life is pretty fascinating and Josh Brolin continues to impress me more and more with each new film he film he works in. This looks like a really fun movie and I think that people really should reserve their judgment until after they see the film.
Leaders today...
by emeraldboy
Oct 14th, 2008
04:05:24 AM
are managers. We are all entering an era of corporate political goverance.
McCain was not tortured. What a conceited little man.
by zapano
Oct 14th, 2008
04:45:02 AM
Mccain has built his political life on a lie. Surely moralistic Republicans will conveniently turn a blind eye to this fact, eh? Of course they will.
Orionsangels
by KnightShift
Oct 14th, 2008
04:53:47 AM
Yeah well, it happened. And it's the kind of thing that's not supposed to happen in America at all. It's not something peculiar to "one side of the aisle" either. People like Bush (and too many other politicians that you could no doubt readily name) come before us alleging that they want to be our *servants*. What do they do with the little power that we trust them with? They run amok with it, get corrupted by it and they DON'T think twice about hurting *anyone* that they perceive might get in their way. "Public servants" my ass...

Like I said, it's not supposed to happen in America. Had the politician in question been a Democrat, it would have bothered me just as much. It's well past time that we stop trusting these people solely on the basis of their having an "R" or a "D" stamped next to their names on a ballot.

The years I spent in North Texas – dealing with Oil men ......
by masteryoda007
Oct 14th, 2008
05:02:39 AM
Who the fuck ae you now Harry? J.R. Ewing? You have never done a real days work in your life!
I have to agree with the sentiments of emeraldboy
by StraightToHell
Oct 14th, 2008
05:24:18 AM
and KnightShift. Where are the Churchills, Washingtons, Teddy Roosevelts and Lincolns of our time? Hell, even though JFK had his share of problems, there is no question that the man had integrity and honor and deep love and respect for this country. And Kennedy stood up and accepted blame when shit hit the fan. Where is the accountability today??? Where are leaders with backbone and strong moral fabric? Nelson Mandela was in jail for over 30 years for refusing to give up his convictions. Can you imagine ANYONE in politics doing this today? The problem is that politicians are devoted to the party and not the people of this country. They talk like they are, but it's clear they are not. This is not at all related to what this site is about, but I just wanted to commiserate with my fellow movie geeks.
Where are the Churchills and Washingtons?
by crashcow
Oct 14th, 2008
06:28:33 AM
They were freer men of more desperate and defining times. Today, we leave no chance for anyone to be that level of person. If Washington were around today, we would have court-marshalled him for lack of military results (he wasn't great until near THE END of the Revolution, kids ...)Lincoln WAS the George W. of his day: Hated, reviled, mocked and, eventually, murdered. All for trying to unite a nation and, begrudgingly, freeing slaves. These men were the product of their times, good and bad, but they still shined through. Now, tossing JFK in there is like tossing a turd in an otherwise edible salad: He's known for getting shot. Everything that came before was dipped in gold once his brain left his head. No honor there. Ask anyone who knows anything about Marilyn Monroe or the Mafia. Folks, we don't have heroes because we aren't willing to BE heroes. We let other people step in with no discernable opinion of their own, with no credibility other than their self-image, and let them tell us how WE need to be. (This is aimed at both Liberals AND Conservatives.) I pray to God Obama doesn't go in as much as I don't want McCain. I want someone who isn't going to turn America into a new socialist state ("Spread the Wealth?" Lenin would be proud...) as much as I don't want someone who's going to pick fights with the free world. The more I've studied history, the more I've become dissappointed in our present. And no, I don't blame W. for it. I blame us. ALL of us. You want heroes again? Be one... And to correct your statement, Harry, Jimmy Carter is by far the worst President of the last 36 years. He sees to it everytime he opens his mouth these days...
History will be more kind to Bush
by unionJACKass.webs.com
Oct 14th, 2008
06:32:34 AM
Now Harry, hmmm. Will the TB's ever forgive him for the debacle that is ScriptGirl?

Just kidding, Harry. We all love you really.

Bush is Bush, you guys voted him in... TWICE...
by unionJACKass.webs.com
Oct 14th, 2008
06:33:52 AM
so..........
At least with Brown we didn't elect him in!
by unionJACKass.webs.com
Oct 14th, 2008
06:35:36 AM
Democracy kicks ass. :rolls eyes:
Zapano and people who think like him
by MANZILLA
Oct 14th, 2008
06:38:35 AM
you are a fucking idiot and have no clue what your talking about. John McCain was tortured daily for 5 years and even refused to go home when the chance presented it. I wouldnt vote for the guy but he is a hero in every sense of the word.
crashcow
by unionJACKass.webs.com
Oct 14th, 2008
06:39:15 AM
They don't make them like they used to - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi kipedia/commons/d/d2/Yalta_sum mit_1945_with_Churchill%2C_Roo sevelt%2C_Stalin.jpg
Stone Knows Politics
by BeyondStatic
Oct 14th, 2008
08:04:38 AM
And it's one genre he does right time after time... Nixon, JFK, even Salvador and to a lesser extent Alexander. He "gets it" and is the perfect storyteller for this project. Can't wait to see it.
Harry, you didn't answer the question....
by MJAYACE
Oct 14th, 2008
08:43:51 AM
How's the fitness and recovery going after the surgery? Hopefully, okay. Your chosen career though, does not lend itself to fitness....
George W. Bush Is Not The Worst President Ever
by kevinwillis.net
Oct 14th, 2008
08:48:31 AM
That should probably go to Richard Nixon. I think history will record him as having a very successful first term, and an awful second term. I think he's the one president that went from being a good, solid president to a lame duck disaster with dismal approval ratings between 1st and 2nd terms. BTW, there has never been any actual evidence that Bush did coke. In fact, the guy who wrote the book that came from turned out to be a pathological liar who had tried to blow his wife up by wiring her car with a bomb, told everybody he was writing a new James Bond novel with the approval of the Fleming estate (they had never heard of him) and had even done a vanity publishing version of it, complete with misspellings, to show people. He's admitted to being an alcoholic, though.
Maybe it's not liberal revenge...
by Curious Jorge
Oct 14th, 2008
08:49:10 AM
but looking at the trailer, it sure does seem to hit on every liberal stereotype of who they think the Bush administration is. Even Harry's description of Laura Bush reeks of such judgement.
What a shock!!
by sizzler
Oct 14th, 2008
08:55:06 AM
That fat liberal fucktard Harry liked the movie! Didn't see that one coming.
Actually Laura Bush is the best looking 1st Lady all the way bac
by MJAYACE
Oct 14th, 2008
08:58:02 AM
And that is a fact whether you are liberal or conservative... Some of they were good looking when they were younger but while in office? Easily Laura Bush...
to Jackie O was what the rest of the headline said.
by MJAYACE
Oct 14th, 2008
08:59:00 AM
Worst President?
by HulkSmashNow
Oct 14th, 2008
09:07:21 AM
Bush isn't the worst president in American history. Why not do a little more research and read about Andrew Johnson or Zachary Taylor? And remember when we look back at history, FDR and JFK weren't all that great either.
Bush? Not worst president??
by Mr Gorilla
Oct 14th, 2008
09:17:55 AM
Just to remind you, in the months after the horrible attack on the World Trade Centre, the WHOLE WORLD reached out in sympathy towards America. 'We're all Americans now' etc etc. It was a chance to build bridges, to change the course of history. Within 5 years, America was as hated by the international community as it has ever been. And it's all down to the choices made by the administration.
This was one of Harry's better reviews - it was fair and balance
by toadkillerdog
Oct 14th, 2008
09:19:30 AM
I am often critical of Harry's over-the-top reviews. And without a doubt he too often allows his personal feelings and or relationships with those involved in the films he reviews to eclispse his better judgement. But this one felt genuine. The anecdotes about his father being involved in the Republican party, to his encounters with GWB -and as someone who met GWB, and still did not vote for him, I can attest that he absolutely has the a very winning 'redneck charm' about him. To the way he actually reviewed Stone's direction of being fair and balanced. That jibes with all I have read about the flick, that Stone - perhaps chastened by the negative reaction to his re-writing of history in his past bio-flicks, attempted to make a more realistic portrayal. I may actually see this movie - which is a helluva lot more than I would have expected when I first heard Stone was making it. The only director I avoid more than Stone is Michael Moore.
I need to see this film as if my sanity depends on it!!!!
by crashbarbarian
Oct 14th, 2008
09:33:36 AM
My fellow americans, i am conservative, i feel that abortion is murder and should be abolished, i feel that capitalism with checks and balances is the correct model for a great economy, i feel that limited government and less spending is the only way we can keep our economy strong and our resolve stronger, i feel that a strong military is important in keeping our foothold in a nuclear world, and i feel that GEORGE BUSH has destroyed everything that every conservative spending, small government, responsible military minded president has done to make America great in the past 30 years! I voted for him twice and i need to know why he has done what he has done and for who's sake! I hope this film answers that for us all!
the thing with Banks as Laura.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
09:44:31 AM
I sort of took the casting as showing us what Laura would look like in W's eyes.
BUSH WAS NOT THE WORST, WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON WAS.
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
09:48:22 AM
Just kidding. Of course Bush is the worst. You can't hide the obvious.
The world doesn't hate America
by Ricyteach
Oct 14th, 2008
09:53:31 AM
The left of the world hate America. I've been to China, Israel. I have friends who live/ have lived in Turkey, Kyrgyzstan, Peru, The Ivory Coast, Australia... they all say the same thing. Most people love America. Why do you think Germany, Italy, and France have all elected undeniably pro-American leaders in the past several years? This stuff about "the world hates us and it's GW Bush's fault" is simply not true.
When I heard Stone was making this movie...
by Frank Black
Oct 14th, 2008
09:53:54 AM
I thought it was a pointless exercise and had no desire to see it! I'm not a Bush fan nor a Republican, but I'm just kind of over Bush Parodies and for me, the joke isn't funny anymore. Every preview I have seen of W makes me want to see it more and more. It really does look great! I love Brolin and frankly, I always enjoy Stone's movies (not Alexander though...) and think it is going to be a solidly entertaining movie.
I'LL BE NETFLIXING THIS AT BEST
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
09:55:29 AM
Sorry but a balanced portrait of the special needs President is not what he deserves. The man who divided the nation in pursuit of oil and world hegemony at all costs needs to be viewed with a critical eye.

I don't give a shit about his personal struggles with Jeb, the bottle, Papa Bush and his mommy, just as they don't give a shit about the people they governed or had killed.

Laura's a fucking robot. I miss the Oliver Stone who made Wall Street and JFK. RIP that guy.

WHO PLAYS JEFF GANNON?
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
09:57:36 AM
You can't do a Dubya movie without Jeff Gannon. That's like doing a Bill Clinton movie without Monica Lewinsky.
History will decide W's fate? MY FUCKING ASS!
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
10:09:13 AM
I reject this notion as utter bullshit. The past and present has already decided W's fate as the worst President of all time and a war criminal to boot. This is a man who divided the country down the center instead of uniting it in the wake of tragedy, illegally invaded a sovereign nation based on intelligence he had manufactured that has resulted in thousands of deaths, and destroyed any standing or good will the country had in the world. What is there for history to decide exactly?
IS THIS THE OFFICIAL TALKBACK OF THE 3RD DEBATE
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
10:09:59 AM
Or do we get a fresh one?
Laura Bush looks like a cross-eyed ditz.
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
10:11:17 AM
Attractice? Nope. Give me Eleanor! I'd hit it.
BSB
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
10:11:51 AM
It should suffice for political venting until tomorrow.
SOUNDS GOOD
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
10:24:28 AM
Life is strangely empty without a poli talkback.
I know. Where is everyone?
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
10:28:00 AM
I can't even get the CoC going. And I've written off Zeroes so I refuse to comment there. Shitty day on AICN.
More insane Palin-McCain supporters...
by eXcommunicated
Oct 14th, 2008
10:37:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =zRqcfqiXCX0 Christ, these people are dumb as fuuuuuck.
Brolin had to go full-retard
by spacechampion
Oct 14th, 2008
10:41:20 AM
so he won't win the Oscar.
As someone who voted for Dubya... twice....
by teddanson37
Oct 14th, 2008
10:42:09 AM
I've been a really big fan of him along the way, up until about a year and a half ago. (i won't go into to detail about why). But I feel like hollywood in general has given him a hard time. yeah, he's not the brightest man to sit behind the oval office desk. but he's no evil tyrant, like some people want to paint him to be. he's just... slow. has he made bad choices? most definitely. has he done things i don't agree with on any level whatsoever? abso-fucking-lutely. but he has his good qualities too. there's a reason he won two elections. and his approval rating means next to nothing. do i approve of the job he's doing? hell no. but if i had the chance to vote again today, i'd still pick Dubya over Kerry or Gore. all that said, i wasn't going to see this film in theaters, but after reading this review, i most definitely will. Harry, this will be the real litmus test for how biased you are. if i see the film, and feel the same way you do about it, then it will be a great film indeed. i'm checking this one out as soon as possible. and now i look forward to the next four years, as we live under Obama's rule. if hollywood isn't biased, then lets roll out the Obama parody left and right. i want constant nailing by the daily show, i want snl skits laughing (not with) but at him, and i want comedy central to launch a lil' barry spinoff cartoon. ok... i know none of that will happen. because Barry simply isn't as fun to watch as Dubya. But we'll see. who knows?
We don't hate America
by Lost Jarv
Oct 14th, 2008
10:53:48 AM
We actually look at you like a retarded cousin that we strangely like. The fact you voted for this complete arsehole TWICE is a source of amusement to us, and if this election is even close then all your doing is living up to the global stereotype of America as Lenny from of Mice and Men (big, strong and dim).
yes Republicans are either rich or dumb...
by Rupee88
Oct 14th, 2008
10:54:46 AM
...or both.
eXcommunicated
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
10:55:10 AM
What the hell? An al Jazeera video? Do they have an American bureau? Why was the guy speaking English?
Jesus, Harry
by Just_John
Oct 14th, 2008
10:56:34 AM
"I’m on record of feeling that George W Bush is definitely the worst President of my 36 year life time and arguably the worst in American History. On a personal level, I hate the guy. He may be “Born Again,” but in his eyes I still see the coke-snorting alcoholic Frat Rat that he was in his youth. I hold the Presidency as a place for intelligent, wise and thoughtful folks. Going with your gut bullshit isn’t how to govern or lead this country, much less the world." Because we all know Harry Knowles is the authority on what makes a strong President. I'm not saying Bush is by any means the best ever, but look at the situation he was thrust into. How would you have handled it, Harry? As someone who works for the government, regardless of the political leanings of the administration, I'm going to politely say that you'd have been a fat, miserable fucking failure. Keep the bullshit political posturing out the movie reviews and just review the fucking movie, for God's sake. Your opinions on government have about as much political weight as my shit.
HoboCode
by eXcommunicated
Oct 14th, 2008
11:01:10 AM
WHO GIVES A SHIT WHO IS BEHIND THE CAMERA??? The footage itself is truth enough. The reporter didn't even provide commentary until the very last 5 seconds.
Just_John
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
11:03:04 AM
Say what you will about Harry's views on politics, but you're the dumb fuck that takes the time to respond.
DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
by Just_John
Oct 14th, 2008
11:04:53 AM
Didn't you read my post? I work for the government. I have all the free time in the world. And I gotta say, you're quite the tough guy on a faceless internet talkback.
Blah Blah Bush is a Nazi Blah Blah Blah
by DunderMifflinPA
Oct 14th, 2008
11:04:58 AM
Harry once again demonstrates the hateful, intolerant nature that is quite becoming of the liberal thudocracy.
And you are spot on about Bush, Harry.
by Rupee88
Oct 14th, 2008
11:07:06 AM
You may be fat, but you are a great judge of character. Anyone with half a brain knew that Bush was a somewhat evil fellow and the last 8 years has proved it to some of those half-brained folks who put him and kept him in office.
It's just more leftist propaganda bullshit from Hollywood
by Curious Jorge
Oct 14th, 2008
11:09:38 AM
When Clinton was in office, we got movies like The American President, Air Force One, and Independence Day, that all show the president in a very positive light. When a Republican is in office, we get crap like W and That's My Bush.
Not bad, Harry
by JohnnyLaBamba
Oct 14th, 2008
11:20:07 AM
Despite the typical fiery liberal preamble, this was actually a pretty even-handed review. Good to see that the movie apparently shows both sides of the coin. I'll be checking this out, though I'll wait till I'm back in the conservative confines of Shreveport later this month, where, by the way, this little flick was shot. The Alamo D-house would be a great venue, but It gets a little tiring being the only Republican living in the People's Socialist Republic of Austin.
eXcommunicated
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
11:20:17 AM
Take a pill bro. We're on the same side. Just do me a favor and do not send al Jazeera videos of Republicans to any swing voters. Not helping my friend. Even if the content is there, all any moron will see and hear is al Jazeera.
Just_John -- THE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
11:20:39 AM
I'm not tough at all. Show me one fucking post where I threatened someone or spoke about my toughness? Oh....you can't? Fuck off. When a dumb mother fucker such as yourself opens his ignorant pie-hole, sure as fuck I'm gonna stick my dick in it and call him out on it. Please explain this line to me....

"As someone who works for the government, regardless of the political leanings of the administration, I'm going to politely say that you'd have been a fat, miserable fucking failure."

As someone who works for the government? So let me get this straight....you attack Harry for stating his personal opinion of Bush and then proceed to state why Harry isn't qualified to do so being a fat, unsuccessful movie writer bla bla bla. So Harry (a citizen of the U.S.) is not qualified to speak on the job Bush has done for the past 8 years, yet you are qualified to speak on the success or failures of Harry's life? Because you are "Someone who works for government" ? Hahaha. Thanks for the laugh man, you hypocritical piece of shit. For one thing it is pathetic you feel the need to drop your credentials to add weight to your post. And the very notion of someone taking the time to post a rant in defense of Bush is just disgusting and painfully hilarious.

If you don't like Harry's political leanings to the left-- then here is some advice. Fuck off. Develop a scorching case of Melanoma and swallow a mouthful of my sweet urine while on your death bed, you stupid fucking TWAT.

"the People's Socialist Republic of Austin."
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
11:21:54 AM
You represent everything the rest of the world hates about our country. You should be proud. You pasty fucking abortion.
Just_John
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
11:25:31 AM
I can't saw what Harry would have done, but I wouldn't have invaded the wrong country for starters, or manufactured intelligence to do so. And if you want to know what makes Harry an authority on what makes a strong President, dillweed, let me tell you. It's called the United States Constitution. You know? The thing the Republicans having been wiping their fat asses with the last eight years?
McCain/Palin supporter footage
by juice willis
Oct 14th, 2008
11:37:16 AM
I know that is not a definitive portrayal of every midwesterner/rural american republican, but goddamn. I've been an ex-pat for the past 2.5 years so the U.S. has already started to become a kind of bloated caricature of itself in my mind, but if that's any indication of the mindset of approx. 40% of the U.S. voting constituency, then our country is truly fucked.
STOKED
by fartedinthefaceofhollywood
Oct 14th, 2008
11:41:11 AM
im am STOKED for this movie...the trailers are hi-fucking-larious and Josh Brolin nails the voice and swagger of W. itching to see this, it looks like good fun and it'll be interesting to see a movie about the life of a president everyone loved to elect but hated being president. anyway, im gonna go watch the last bit of Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanemo Bay before i go see this...that impersonination of Bush in H and K was just TOO much.
Richard Dreyfuss is playing a conservative...
by Raymar
Oct 14th, 2008
11:47:59 AM
...so I'm sure we're all gonna get a nuanced, reasonable performance.
Hey here's a thought
by TOGSolid
Oct 14th, 2008
11:52:01 AM
Discuss the movie rather than the election or Harry's politics, etc.? Maybe? Just perhaps? The trailers looked good and this review is promising. I'm not exactly "stoked," but I will check this out when I can.
Jorge
by Lost Jarv
Oct 14th, 2008
11:54:13 AM
Clinton was still in power when Primary Colours came out? If so then your argument collapses under the weight of your mindless party support.
AICN and hyperbole
by zacdilone
Oct 14th, 2008
11:57:18 AM
The tendency for hyperbole inherent in fanboyism has now transcended entertainment and hit the real world. "Worst episode ever" has now become "worst president ever." And it's not surprising--the tendency in our culture towards exaggeration and hyperbole is one of the most annoying things the internet generation is bringing to the mainstream. It's no longer good enough to say someone is "wrong," they have to be "evil." Hence we get such delicious epithets as "the aborted fetus that is Dubya." As much as I love the fact that younger generations today are becoming more politically aware, it disturbs me that both sides lean toward such extremism. I got news for you folks--Dubya is not evil, Obama is not a marxist, Cheney is not the antichrist, Pelosi is not a witch, and Palin is not a hatemonger. But for some reason the cultural climate not only embraces these ridiculous claims, it encourages them. As a result, more and more people get their understanding of political realities from people who have no real political savvy or know-how, since they are drawn to extremist views like Michael Bay to slow motion.
And to prove my point...
by zacdilone
Oct 14th, 2008
12:00:01 PM
http://tinyurl.com/46lavd
Gasoline is down a buck thirty a gallon...
by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder
Oct 14th, 2008
12:04:03 PM
Now THERE'S a sure sign the Republicans are losing the election...
George Soros and the Agents of ACORN
by PirateEmery
Oct 14th, 2008
12:14:59 PM
Sounds like a Bond villain...
"I want someone who isn't going to turn America into a new socia
by Shan
Oct 14th, 2008
12:18:00 PM
Too late!

(As the Republican Government is busy nationalising almost every failing business in sight) ...

"to turn America into a new socialist state" ...
by Shan
Oct 14th, 2008
12:18:52 PM
Was supposed to be the last part of that subject line ...
PALIN IS NOT A HATE-MONGER
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
12:24:11 PM
right ...
Shan
by zacdilone
Oct 14th, 2008
12:25:29 PM
Um...both parties are doing it.
Shan
by PirateEmery
Oct 14th, 2008
12:33:45 PM
I'm sure Nancy Pelosi was all broken up about the whole thing...
BringingSexyBack
by zacdilone
Oct 14th, 2008
12:36:16 PM
Thanks for proving my point.
One number + 3 words...
by Kid Z
Oct 14th, 2008
12:38:15 PM
... 23 percent approval rating. 3 more words... lower than Nixon. To quote Stan Lee... "'Nuff said!"
Curious Jorge...
by Kid Z
Oct 14th, 2008
12:41:15 PM
...Primary Colors and Wag The Dog don't ring a bell? Selective memory, maybe? Or is the tinfoil wrapped around your skull getting too loose?
ZAC
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
12:43:53 PM
You have no comparable basis to support your point vis-a-vis Palin. Everything else you said ... okay, it's arguable. I give you that. But Palin is bona fide hate-monger.
Not a Liberal Revenge Film
by CrazyGnome
Oct 14th, 2008
12:45:04 PM
Ofcourse it is. It isn't fun to call people stupid if they don't hear it. Saying this movie isn't just for angry liberals is so that moderate and right leaning people will be tricked into seeing it. Watch the interviews with actors. They are so angry. This is an I hate Bush and Republicans movie. See it if you need to angry liberals. After this election, let's unite behind Obama and leave hate out of our politics.
Dickblood and Hobocode
by Just_John
Oct 14th, 2008
12:47:45 PM
That was awesome! Did your fathers' touch you in the naughty areas when you were children? I know you're just a couple of fat kids sitting in your parent's basement or something, so I can't really get too amped up about what a guy with a reference to cock in his logon name who thinks he comes off as an ironically detached neo-liberal rebel and uses a lot of swear words his dad probably threw at him when he was a kid says about me. Believe it or not, you're actually part of what makes this country awesome: a couple of pimple-faced douchebag ass clowns who thought it was cool to rebel against the parents who undoubtedly paid for everything you've ever owned, probably work at a fucking starbucks (actually I hope so, daddy won't pay for your shit forever, like he did the computer you're typing on) or something and talk like fucking experts about shit they can't even comprehend. Oh, let me beat you to the punch: "Just_John, you're such a twat mother fucker! Please choke on my pee-pee while you ride a goat's fuckhole!! You big pile of afterbirth!!" Or however that was gonna go. What a couple of fucking idiots you are. Here's a news flash: you don't matter, and you never will. No one will ever love you, women will slam their legs shut from coast to coast at your mere approach, and you will die alone. You're flipping out and calling someone a twat on a fucking movie talkback forum. All I did was get pissed that Harry's review was politically rather than cinematically motivated. Jesus, I can't believe I've wasted this much time with a couple of fucking hemrrhoids like you. I'm done.
Just_John
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
12:55:47 PM
Jesus Christ that was a long fucking post. I only got as far as the fat kid in the basement bit and I had to stop. I hope you went on to mention I jerk off to Michael Bay movies and my keyboard is covered in Cheeto crumbs. Its the little details that matter.

Either way-- you're a dumb fuck. Your words are like period blood and I can give a fuck what you think about me. Hope you enjoy the next four years under President Obama.

President Obama
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
01:07:12 PM
Has a nice ring to it doesn't it. I'll just call him P.O. for short.
fucking cunt Just_John...
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
01:10:24 PM
I love these fuckers that use the "Fat kid in basement" stereotype, suggesting I have no life and then proceed to write a fucking essay detailing why I have no life. Thanks. Fucking loser. Oh I'm sorry...you work for the government, I shouldn't say such things.
When Obama gets elected...
by blackmantis
Oct 14th, 2008
01:16:29 PM
...I'm going to watch Fox News every day and laugh my ass off watching all those neocon pundits heads exploding for the next 8 years. It will be a sight to see.
Political Slap Fights
by fartedinthefaceofhollywood
Oct 14th, 2008
01:22:01 PM
sure are fun aren't they???...this is why i don't give a shit about politics, its no different than the politics seen in high-schools with class presidents blah blah blah...a popularity pissing contest and when they get elected, its usually let down after let down. sorry, too much time and energy gets wasted thinking about how this or that moron is gonna "run" the country. sorry, im just not IN to this sorta thing...i'm sure somebody will claim im "part of the problem" for not caring...but you know...WHAT-the-FUCK-ever
DEVELOPING STORY ... PALIN HOUSE BUILT BY MALL CONTRACTOR
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
01:23:20 PM
There's an investigation about her house, which she had built bypassing permits, was built by the contractor (for free) whom she gave the Wasilla mall construction job to. Look for it to come up in next few weeks.
Anyone who voted for this douchebag...
by grendel69
Oct 14th, 2008
01:27:36 PM
...should kill themselves. Really. Seriously.
So is it better or worse than Speed Racer?
by Leafy McPlantsalot
Oct 14th, 2008
01:33:56 PM
and or the Happening?
Carter was awful...
by mullymt
Oct 14th, 2008
01:34:34 PM
But he never suspended Habeas Corpus. He never called the Constitution "just a piece of paper." Bush has seriously, and maybe permantly, damaged our constitutional foundation. For God's sake, we're now having a serious debate about which branch of the government the VP is part of! Carter was in way over his head, but he left the foundation of the country intact.
other ways a Harry can express "that said.."
by Hjermsted
Oct 14th, 2008
01:35:31 PM
Harry, you utilize the phrase "that said" almost as much as you do the elipses. But we are here to help. Mix it up a bit by using phrases such as: "setting that aside for a moment...", "but aside from that...", "but nevermind all that because...", "taking the contrary view..." "in any case..." unless, of course, your reviews are actually written by manatees and just pasted together from old language reviews. In that case... carry on!
Kid Idioteque
by kayleefan
Oct 14th, 2008
01:36:55 PM
"It sounds like a very fair portrait of the man." Funniest thing I've read on AICN.
SARAH PALIN AS H. W. BUSH
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
01:40:54 PM
"Read my lips, dotcha know!"
OBAMA IS THE MESSIAH
by misterorange
Oct 14th, 2008
01:42:43 PM
At least thats what Harry thinks. Right? Riiiiiiiiiiiight? Go fuck yourself. I hate you Harry, I personally hate you. Do you even know anything about history? Then you will know that the Presidency has been full of questionable people throughout history. Ever hear of Andrew Jackson? Dude straight up slaughtered and executed Indians personally. Too early in history for you? How about Carter's stellar presidency? Hot dammit I am sick of everyone that just likes to say "I hate W, he sucks", etc. Fucking think for yourselves assholes! If you love or hate either side wholeheartedly, then you are just another sheep.
PALIN UNLEASHES HER HOLIER-THAN-THOU SPIRIT ON OWN SUPPORTERS
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
01:44:38 PM
AP RICHMOND, Va. — Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin mistook some of her own fans for hecklers Monday at a rally that drew thousands.

A crowd spread across the parking lot of Richmond International Raceway, and scores of people on the outer periphery more than 100 yards from the stage could not hear.

"Louder! Louder!" they began chanting, and the cry spread across the crowd to Palin's left. Some pointed skyward, urging that the volume be increased.

Palin stopped her remarks briefly and looked toward the commotion.

"I hope those protesters have the courage and honor to give veterans thanks for their right to protest," she said.

Some in the crowd tried to shout toward her what was really being said, but she couldn't hear them.

On a sunny day in which many had stood in place for more than three hours without shade, at least 25 people collapsed from heat-related illnesses and three were hospitalized, according to the Henrico County fire department.

I'll ask it again
by kungfuhustler84
Oct 14th, 2008
01:47:29 PM
does nobody care that there may be pictures of Harry McFatsypants hustling up some cattle, as he claims he did in his review? By the way, Harry, I love how every single review you have ever done HAS to tie into your own life, with some huge thing that was somehow a huge part of your childhood.
AMERICAN CAROL STAR DENNIS HOPPER PRAYS FOR OBAMA VICTORY
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
01:50:44 PM
Oct 13, 4:14 PM ET

PARIS (AFP) - Dennis Hopper, the US actor-director perhaps best known for the 1969 road-movie "Easy Rider", is praying for victory by Barack Obama in next month's elections, he said on Monday.

ADVERTISEMENT

"I voted for Bush, father and son, but this time I'll vote for Obama," he told journalists at the opening of a show on his life and work at the Paris cinematheque.

Hopper is to be handed France's order of Commander of Arts and Letters by the culture minister later Monday.

"I was the first person in my family to have been Republican," he added. "For most of my life I wasn't on the left."

"I pray God, Barack Obama is elected," he said, criticising the current administration's many "lies."

The exhibition on his life includes his films as well as paintings and photographs, and works from his own art collection, including pieces by Andre Basquiat, Andy Warhol, Robert Rauschenberg and Roy Lichtenstein.

It's not just hyperbole...
by Hjermsted
Oct 14th, 2008
01:51:54 PM
GW is the least qualified person to ever lead an industrial nation. In sports terminology: Even with the great first place handoff he received from his predecessor, GW managed to take his nation across the finish line in last place. GW's performance as a leader is so bad it is threatening to take down other nations who have similar financial structures and followed the US's lead. All of this is unprecedented. I would compare him to Herbert Hoover, but that president was performing without any economic safety nets. What will make GW's scorched earth approach to politics (ie. "shooting from the hip" or "going with my gut") worse than Hoover's is he may very well have torched the safety net which could plummet the US to record economic lows. History will not be kind to this mediocre human who was mistakenly given great power.
misterorange
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
01:52:21 PM
Naahhh. You're wrong W. is by far the worst. No one has done more lasting damage than he.

Fuck off.

...........
by misterorange
Oct 14th, 2008
01:57:10 PM
Hahahaha, lasting damage? Really? You have a crystal ball or can just see into the future if you imagine it hard enough?
DOES ONE REALLY NEED A CRYSTAL BALL
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
02:09:39 PM
To forecast the damage done by the wars and the ballooning national debt? One only needs a basic middle school education for that. Maybe less.
The worst thing about George W. is.....
by Motoko Kusanagi
Oct 14th, 2008
02:14:11 PM
....that he's simply a dumb, clueless, dim-witted fucknut.
misterorange
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
02:19:44 PM
I hope it makes your dick hard when you proudly vote McCain you little puke.
This "time will tell" bullshit...
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
02:35:28 PM
in regards to Bush's disastrous Presidency is just a set up for the Republicans to once again take credit for Democrats digging us out of another one of the Republican shitholes they've created. In eight years when Hilary is running to succeed Obama's peaceful and prosperous administration, the Republicans will be saying the reason was becasue of W's vision. HORSE. SHIT.
Carter was a good man at the wrong time
by crankyoldguy
Oct 14th, 2008
02:35:33 PM
Bush, surrounded by genuinely criminal motherfuckers like Cheney, Rove, etc. is just a dimwit propped up by Neo-Con agendas that have destroyed the middle-class (Hello, that's me), attempted to abort the constitution (funny, comin' from 'pro-lifers, huh?) and more. Palin is another dimwit with a touch of Delores Umbridge, a reference many AICN readers can relate too. McCain should open a waffle house, especially based on his comments and "thoughts" over the past few months. Is Bush the worst? In my lifetime yes. Even Nixon felt a quaker obligation to the poor - Bush and his ilk don't care about anyone who isn't a millionaire, hell, a multi-millionaire.
anchorite
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
02:40:46 PM
Yeah fiction based on accounts from insiders. Oh, thats not the way it really was? You know this after spending extensive time in the Oval Office?

A nice big FUCK OFF.

MIKE BENDER SCHLEPPED FOR A BRIGHTER FUTURE
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
03:02:10 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITI CS/10/13/great.schlep/index.ht ml

By Patrick Oppmann

CNN

TAMARAC, Florida (CNN) -- "Schlep."

A Yiddish word meaning to pull, yank or tug, schlep is a good way of describing what it took for Mike Bender to persuade his grandparents to vote for Sen. Barack Obama for president.

Bender's grandparents, Kenny and Selma Furst, 90 and 87 years old, should have been an easy sell to support the Democratic nominee for president.

Like many of the estimated 650,000 Jews living in Florida, the Fursts are lifelong, passionate Democrats and a crucial vote for any Democratic candidate hoping to win the battleground state.

But when Bender -- who is not affiliated with Obama's campaign but supports him -- brought up the idea of voting for Obama over Thanksgiving dinner last year, he was met with an uncharacteristic silence.

"Their reaction was, as they said, 'I'm a little meschugah,' " Bender said, adding that the expression meant "crazy."

For Selma Furst, voting for an African-American for president seemed unthinkable. Watch a "few little known Jewish facts" on Obama »

"I grew up with Jewish people and Italian people, but I never lived in a neighborhood that was black," she said. "Somebody said to me, 'What do you object to about him?' I said, well, truthfully, our colors are different."

Overcoming the prejudices of his grandparents' generation would be difficult, Bender realized. But he was not going to be alone.

Ari Wallach, co-executive director of Jews Vote, a Jewish advocacy group, also said he saw reluctance among some older, traditionally Democratic Jews to support Obama.

But Wallach said it wasn't just a question of race. He cited a months-long misleading Internet campaign that aimed to convince voters that Obama is a Muslim or that he would reverse the United States' policy of supporting Israel. Obama is Christian and says he backs a strong U.S.-Israel relationship.

"The older demographic particularly were being hit with tons and tons of Obama smear e-mails," Wallach said. "If you really want to talk to them in a way that will bring them over to the Obama side, you want to do it one to one, ideally with people they love. And grandparents love no one more than their grandkids."

And so the Great Schlep was born. The idea was that young, Jewish Democrats would flood Florida and convince their elders that voting for Obama was OK.

To get the word out about the Great Schlep, Wallach and his colleagues turned to comedian Sarah Silverman. Silverman makes the case for Obama in a Web video in which she attempts to show similarities -- some tenuous -- between an African-American man and an older Jewish woman. She raves about the Democratic candidate's brisket and points out that Barack comes from the Hebrew word for "lightning." Watch the Great Schlep »

The video ends with Silverman advising Obama supporters to let their grandparents know that should they fail to vote Democratic in the presidential election in November, maybe they shouldn't expect many more family visits.

The Silverman video quickly became a Web sensation, garnering about 2 million hits in the two weeks since it was posted on thegreatschlep.com, organizers said. Thousands of people pledged to call their relatives in Florida and more than 100 people volunteered to pay their own way to travel to the Sunshine State to campaign for Obama among Jewish voters, Wallach said.

Bender saw the Silverman video on YouTube in Los Angeles, California, where he works as a writer. Despite the humor of Silverman's call to schlep, the video's message resonated with Bender because of the difficulty he faced convincing his own grandparents.

"I thought it was brilliant," Bender said. He decided to go to Florida and try one more time.

When Bender recently returned to his grandparents' retirement community in Tamarac, Florida, near Fort Lauderdale, he was greeted with several surprises. Months of telephone conversations and his trip had paid off: His grandparents told him shortly after he arrived that they were going to support Obama.

The next surprise was that his schlep had generated interest around their retirement community. A lot of interest. So many other seniors wanted to hear about Obama that the venue for a meeting on the subject had to be changed from the Furst's living room to a ballroom in the community's clubhouse.

An hour before Bender started to make his case about Obama on Sunday, groups of senior citizens were staking out space in the ballroom. Soon there were more than 100 people and no more chairs.

Sporting an Obama T-shirt with Hebrew writing on it, retiree Morty Brill said, "The economy, the war, you think you can trust Republicans to fix them?"

If there were any people in the room with reservations about Barack Obama, they kept those doubts to themselves.

As Bender told the crowd that Obama was not a Muslim and that Obama was a staunch supporter of Israel, he was met with heads nodding in agreement throughout the room.

However, Bender felt the need to drive the point further. If Obama was elected, he said, then Bender would not worry so much about politics and "would have more time to find a nice Jewish girl to marry."

Whether Mike Bender's schlep really changed any minds is anyone's guess, but the applause from the crowd was deafening.

BSB - I am just shocked
by toadkillerdog
Oct 14th, 2008
03:07:37 PM
A 'W' TB and no real vitriol. Methinks this is the result of a too heavy-handed crack down on trolls, pseudo trolls, just plain assholes, and the Troll-killers who smacked them down. LONG LIVE LIBERAL WARRIOR!!!
oh Just John...
by Grendy
Oct 14th, 2008
03:10:04 PM
Can't we all get along? Oh, I guess not, because you're determined to rant and use swear words to make your point about using swear words. I get it. It's like all those goth kids being different together. I am a 38 year old woman. I don't sit in a basement (originally from Florida...we don't have them there) and bemoan my single state. I have been married, I do social-type stuff, go out, etc. I also vote, read multiple news sources both paper and online and think about the direction we are headed, and where we have been. I do wonder, however, how you think someone could review this film about a major political figure in recent American history and not filter it through your own views on politics? I mean... I thought that the Constitution was "of the people, by the people and for the people". Last I knew, Harry was just like Soylent Green. You know... made of PEOPLE! So, being a citizen of these United States is what enables you to complain AND make better these 50 states. These two factors go hand in hand in my book. Complain, Make Better. Especially if you are of voting age, and do so when offered the opportunity. I have been a registered voter since I was 17.5 years old, and voted in the '88 elections as my first time. I am a fan of due process, learning the facts, not sending others in harm's way if it is not necessary, holding people accountable, and working together to keep the fabric of this great nation together. Saying you work for the Government doesn't excuse your rant. Heck, it makes me think why aren't you doing more? You made a comment about working for the Gov't and having time on your hands to do these ranty-posts... If this is how MY tax money is being spent, please just quit now, save me my $2.50 and get a job on a soapbox. Better yet, become the sandwich-board guy, with your rants posted for all to see. There has been enough divisiveness these last years, no matter who you chose this time out, they both promise to be better at inclusiveness. Let those promises be what we use to put back together what was torn apart 40 years ago. Let America not continue to be the world's Police Force, (with, frankly, less and less moral authority to use its force with) but its friend, helping and not harming. A friend said to me "I believe in the myth of the American Dream". Not the Dream, but the myth. Myth is what inspires writers, students and those with a love of 'what can be' Let's get back to that, can we?
Obama smoking.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
03:10:42 PM
They were talking about him smoking on CNN the other day and they showed footage from the primary election where he is taking questions from reporters. One reporter asks, "How did you quit? I'm trying to quit myself..." Obama yells "NICORETTE GUM!! Here....try one!" And pulls his pack of gum out of his pocket and rips off a piece and throws it into the crowd at the guy. It was pretty fucking funny.
TOADKILLAZZ
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
03:11:23 PM
I thought about that. I think even some of the most ardent wingnuts have been put off by the sights and sounds of the McCain/Palin campaign and are put off by it. They've realized that the line of decency was crossed into dangerous territory, and they want no association with the violent factions on the Right. To which I say ... thank you.
George W. Bush is the worst President on my lifetime
by Luscious.868
Oct 14th, 2008
03:12:04 PM
But since I'm 27 and was born in 1981 I've only lived through Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. Based on what I've learned in history and where we appear to be at today, Bush will probably end up on the short list of the worst Presidents when the dust settles, but any student of history can tell you there have been Presidents that have been just as bad, if not worse. Buchanan basically sat back and let this country descend into Civil War without putting up a fight. More Americans died in the Civil War than during any other war we've fought since. That's pretty damn bad. This country will certainly be better off after Bush than it was after Buchanan provided we get our fiscal situation under control.
Grendy
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
03:12:05 PM
You are an angel....you wouldn't have a pic up somewhere would you? (wink wink)
Ok...in all fairness.....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
03:16:36 PM
W. might not go down as THEE WORST. But he will surely be in the Top 3 Worst Presidents of all time....
AND THIS IS WHERE OBAMA PUTS HIS GUM....
by BurgerTime
Oct 14th, 2008
03:16:50 PM
...after he spits it out. This one's good for a few laughs too.

http://tinyurl.com/4p2l6r

OH SHIT. I JUST READ A BOMBSHELL ...
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
03:19:07 PM
This one is fucking huge.
I HOPE OBAMA BRINGS THIS UP AT THE DEBATE
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
03:21:26 PM
This is a game-changer if ever there was one. Been nice knowing you, McCain. Sarah, have a good trip back to Wasilla.
THE RETURN OF GEKKO
by BurgerTime
Oct 14th, 2008
03:22:46 PM
Looks like Oliver Stone wants to go back to Wall Street.

http://www.variety.com/VR11179 93933.html

MCCAIN TRANSITION CHIEF AIDED SADDAM HUSSEIN
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
03:27:10 PM
Entire article: http://tinyurl.com/4qg2u7

October 14, 2008 02:49 PM

William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.

The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein's government.

During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil. Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.

Timmons' activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.

John McCain strongly supported the 1991 military action against Iraq, and as recently as Sunday described Saddam Hussein as a one-time menace to the region who had "stated categorically that he would acquire weapons of mass destruction, and he would use them wherever he could."

Timmons declined to comment for this story. An office manager who works for him said that he has made it his practice during his public career to never speak to the press. Timmons previously told investigators that he did not know that either Vincent or Park were acting as unregistered agents of Iraq. He also insisted that he did not fully understand just how closely the two men were tied to Saddam's regime while they collaborated.

But testimony and records made public during Park's criminal trial, as well as other information uncovered during a United Nations investigation, suggest just the opposite. Virtually everything Timmons did while working on the lobbying campaign was within days conveyed by Vincent to either one or both of Saddam Hussein's top aides, Tariq Aziz and Nizar Hamdoon. Vincent also testified that he almost always relayed input from the Iraqi aides back to Timmons.

Talking points that Timmons produced for the lobbyists to help ease the sanctions, for example, were reviewed ahead of time by Aziz, Vincent testified in court. Proposals that Timmons himself circulated to U.S. officials as part of the effort were written with the assistance of the Iraqi officials, and were also sent ahead of time with Timmons' approval to Aziz, other records show.

Moreover, there was a major financial incentive at play for Timmons. The multi-million dollar oil deal that he was pursuing with the two other lobbyists would only be possible if their efforts to ease sanctions against Iraq were successful.

Let's hear it BSB!
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
03:27:49 PM
JUST DID - WAS BUILDING IT UP FOR YA
by BringingSexyBack
Oct 14th, 2008
03:32:52 PM
Dontcha know!
Meh...
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
03:34:32 PM
It certainly makes McCain look like a hypocrit, but I kind of commend those efforts to ease sanctions on Iraq. Those sanctions killed a quarter of a million Iraqi CHILDREN.
You know....
by Darth Macchio
Oct 14th, 2008
03:35:23 PM
Part of the reason there is no truth is identity and how we use it to define ourselves and our associations; in particular with political parties and their respective candidates.

I could say 6 words and with those words, you would be an expert on me, my opinion, and would also be able to "know" everything I say and think. You'd know my life history with just a simple sentence. You'd know whether or not I love America or hate America. You'd know whether or not I want to blow up America with my terrorist buddies or if I wanted to incarcerate all Muslims for being terrorists. You'd know right away if I want to take all of your money and give you a nickel allowance per week or maybe that I want to take my money and go kick some homeless people in the teeth. You'd know if I hate baseball, apple pie, and fireworks on the Fourth of July. You'd know if I love NASCAR, the military, and country music. You'd know at a glance whether or not I'm a racist or a sexist or a religious zealot. You'd know in a moment that I was a fellow parishioner or a devoted comrade. You'd know without asking that I'm a Godless fool worthy of pity or a lost soul in need of spiritual guidance. You'd know right away if I thought the surge worked or if I think Saddam Hussein was training Al Qaida operatives in norther Iraq prior to September 11, 2001.

And you'd know whether or not we were friends or adversaries. With just a sentence. 6 words. I bet you already know all the things I mentioned...and I didn't even have to say those 6 words.

Oh.
by HoboCode
Oct 14th, 2008
03:36:03 PM
I just read the last bit about it being for the multi-million dollar oil deal. Fuck'em.
HoboCode -- you can commend those efforts....
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
Oct 14th, 2008
03:39:17 PM
....but what about those McCain supporters screaming "Terrorist!" What are they gonna think once they catch wind of that shit?
But BUT that would mean McCains chief helped Saddam!?!?
by G100
Oct 14th, 2008
03:39:27 PM
That can't be right ? Can it ?

It would mean the Dems could now easily carpet bomb states with attack ads showing this association to Saddam Hussein as a response to all the Ayres stuff.

Hey BSB maybe that's ALSO why Conservative Bill Krystal called for the firing of the McCain Campaign ?

---FIRE THE CAMPAIGN---

By WILLIAM KRISTOL Published: October 12, 2008

It’s time for John McCain to fire his campaign. He has nothing to lose. His campaign is totally overmatched by Obama’s. The Obama team is well organized, flush with resources, and the candidate and the campaign are in sync. The McCain campaign, once merely problematic, is now close to being out-and-out dysfunctional. Its combination of strategic incoherence and operational incompetence has become toxic. If the race continues over the next three weeks to be a conventional one, McCain is doomed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008 /10/13/opinion/13kristol.html? ref=opinion

Though how will W. beat the orsum American Carol ????
by G100
Oct 14th, 2008
03:43:50 PM
I don't know how Stones film can possibly match the artistic genius, comedy billiance, critical acclaim and Box Office smash that was an American Carol ?
Very well said Grendy
by toadkillerdog
Oct 14th, 2008
03:44:11 PM
Far too mature for most on these boards I am afraid.
dannyglovers'....
by Grendy
Oct 14th, 2008
03:44:42 PM
It's spelled "pick-em up". silly boy. Also... I don't. I rock the '96 Metro with the 37 MPG. SUCK IT, you Hummer owners. and BSB...good lookin' out my man.
BILL KRISTOL WANTS TO TURN PALIN INTO A NEOCON PUPPET
by BringingSexyBack